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Thread: Rap Music : PLEASE DIE ALREADY

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    Since whites will be a minority by 2050 or so and Hispanics and Blacks combined will be the majority, will this trend for enjoying shitty rap music continue? I'm going to pop a cap in my own ass if this is the case...


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    I like some Rap/Hip Hop, some pretty sweet songs:

    "Yo mamas on crack rock" - The Dogs, "The Humpty Dance" - Digital Underground, "Rappin' Duke" - Shawn Brown, "The Bubble Bunch" - Jimmy Spicer, "Fight the Power" - Public Enemy, "I'm the Man" - Anthrax, "Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta" - Geto Boys. Wu Tang is damn solid, I even have a whole album of theirs'.

    My favourite act, The Clash, tended to paint with a broad palette - which did include some Hip-Hop influences.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepotter84 View Post
    Since whites will be a minority by 2050 or so and Hispanics and Blacks combined will be the majority, will this trend for enjoying shitty rap music continue? I'm going to pop a cap in my own ass if this is the case...
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    Stander, please remove that shit from this thread. You've sullied it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepotter84 View Post
    Stander, please remove that shit from this thread. You've sullied it.
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    Why does it matter what other people like or listen to?

    Cant people that are labeled "black" in the US listen to or even prefer, other types of music? i dont know, jazz for example? (In some parts of the world it would be considered a tad racist or stereotypical to look at someone and asume he likes a type of music based on the shade of his skin)

    Hispanics are not considered "white"? If Martin Sheen is not white the benjamin moore paint colour samples must realy be used to determine who has the abitrary label "white". Isnt Spain part of Europe? And if so, are people from southern France, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Turkey, also not considered "white"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by icewendigo View Post
    Why does it matter what other people like or listen to?
    It doesn't. What I object to are the ones who seem to believe that everyone within a two block radius must also listen to their music.
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    It doesn't. What I object to are the ones who seem to believe that everyone within a two block radius must also listen to their music.

    I see, this is what I consider to be an uncivilized behavior.
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    I don't care what anyone listens to, unless they drive their cars down the road and the loud base tones wake me up at night. I'm not sure if it's just that the hip-hop is being played louder, or if there's just a stronger base, either way it's very obnoxious. Not to say that it's exclusive only to hip-hop listeners, but thus far that has been the only genre I've heard after awaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    There's one of those outside my office window right now, sitting in his car listing to some hip-hop crap at top volume. I wish I had a gun sometimes...
    For the purpose of using lethal force against the bodily thread of pounding noise?

    (I know you're joking, but I personally reserve comment concerning firearms to their valid applications). jocular
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    I was behind some Cadillac on the interstate the other day and it was blasting some noise I couldn't quite identify from a distance. I assumed it was rap due to the thundering base, which I could feel in my chest.

    As I rolled past him, I noticed an old man with wispy white hair on his shiny head. He was smiling and conducting in the air to Beethoven. I assume it was so loud because he was 600 and his ear drums had fossilized, but maybe he was just living it up.

    Kind of made me rethink my stereotypes, though.
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    Rap before Rap: Dylan
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    It is a shame Mike isn't around any more. Such a polite young man.

    Let's fill this thread with hip-hop and rap in his memory.

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    And some classics...

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    And for those still stuck in some sort of stone age of rock:
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    Another olide
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    I personally prefer this instead.

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    Music is made for anyone who enjoys it. So no matter who you are you can always find music that you like other than music you can't stand. Everyone has the right to express themselves no matter what others may think. So just find music that you enjoy and you'll be a very happy boy!



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    Is it just me but go back 15 - 20 years and wasn't rap music actually a proper form of expression, where people had genuine things to say. Like a social or political message or even like a cultural example of the hardships of growing up in tough neighbourhoods.
    Since then the whole genre of rap seems to have moved away from that kind of expessionism of a real message or social point and is now all seemingly about gangsterism or criminality, on top of this it just sounds like noise, hey perhaps it's that I'm getting older or that it really has lost it's artistory but either way it seems a shame and something that just certianly doesn't seem enjoyable to listen to these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Is it just me but go back 15 - 20 years and wasn't rap music actually a proper form of expression, where people had genuine things to say. Like a social or political message or even like a cultural example of the hardships of growing up in tough neighbourhoods.
    Since then the whole genre of rap seems to have moved away from that kind of expessionism of a real message or social point and is now all seemingly about gangsterism or criminality, on top of this it just sounds like noise, hey perhaps it's that I'm getting older or that it really has lost it's artistory but either way it seems a shame and something that just certianly doesn't seem enjoyable to listen to these days.
    its more rebel music... raw music... saying TABOO words the older you get the more fine music you want the more you get you life on trails the less you want to change the world... but its true its milked to much there is very few real rap nowdays no message at all just look how cool im buy my album
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Is it just me but go back 15 - 20 years and wasn't rap music actually a proper form of expression, where people had genuine things to say. Like a social or political message or even like a cultural example of the hardships of growing up in tough neighbourhoods.
    Since then the whole genre of rap seems to have moved away from that kind of expessionism of a real message or social point and is now all seemingly about gangsterism or criminality, on top of this it just sounds like noise, hey perhaps it's that I'm getting older or that it really has lost it's artistory but either way it seems a shame and something that just certianly doesn't seem enjoyable to listen to these days.
    I cannot say for certain, but I don't think sociopolitical charges were ever the standard for Hip-Hop and Rap music - certainly some popular artists were politically and socially conscious in their work, but I think there were always groups that glorified crime and gang lifestyles, and groups that didn't rap about anything particularly important at all. As an example: NSFW/Explicit Lyrics



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Is it just me but go back 15 - 20 years and wasn't rap music actually a proper form of expression, where people had genuine things to say. Like a social or political message or even like a cultural example of the hardships of growing up in tough neighbourhoods.
    I think this might be partly selective memory - you remember the ones that made the biggest impact so that over, say 5 years you remember, say, 10 great songs. But then you think, "there haven't been 10 songs that good this year". Plus Sturgeon's Law.

    There have been some songs with a message more recently

    (And I might put Eminem's Lose Yourself in the same category.)
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    Strange,

    I haven't heard that song from the Black Eyed Peas in ages! What's funny is right at the 1:25 mark I saw the price of gas... $1.85!

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    NOT a fan of the Black Eyed Peas.


    I do like the odd classic bit of rap though. Missy Elliot - Work it comes to mind.

    The most cartoonily crazy "artist" in recent memory is Kanye West. I don't have anything good to say about that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stander-j View Post

    I cannot say for certain, but I don't think sociopolitical charges were ever the standard for Hip-Hop and Rap music - certainly some popular artists were politically and socially conscious in their work, but I think there were always groups that glorified crime and gang lifestyles, and groups that didn't rap about anything particularly important at all. As an example: NSFW/Explicit Lyrics
    Hey actually you and Strange could both be right on that one, just done a quick search to find some of the tunes I'm remembering from yestayear only to discover half are hip-hop or reggae, but hey I never did really figure out how you distinguish between some Genres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    NOT a fan of the Black Eyed Peas.


    I do like the odd classic bit of rap though. Missy Elliot - Work it comes to mind.

    The most cartoonily crazy "artist" in recent memory is Kanye West. I don't have anything good to say about that guy.
    the guy doesn't have anything to do with rap... actually whole jay z label and friends...
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