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    Scandalous results of "Artist or ape" quiz

    http://www.alternativeright.com/main...-the-abstract/


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    what results??? All I see is a link taking people off this site to some unknown place.


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    Apes are capable of abstraction. The rest of the article may be valid.
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    Except I have only a moderate understanding of art and I can tell which ones are actual abstract paintings and which were done by the apes. If you actually understand how abstract art is produced, and what it is attempting to do, you can tell the difference.

    I've taken all of Simus' art quizes and gotten 100% on all of them. The problem with your quizes Simus is that you assume that the general population not educated about art understands what is being done or attempted in art. When someone is faced with something like a piece of American Realism painted by Edward Hopper they may see that is well painted in a sense of verisimilitude. But what is it about "Nighthawks at the Diner" that has made it an iconic 20th century painting? It is not Hopper's ability to accurately reproduce an image. It was his choice of aesthetics, part of the social realist movement pushing for the aesthetic value of the every day scene, of the common person. The ennui of working class Americans eating cheeseburgers at 1 am in a diner resonated with audiences, critics, and artist who followed in Hopper's footsteps. There is nothing innate about the painting itself that has made it good art. There is nothing a poll can determine about what makes it good art. What makes it an important painting is the legacy, innovation, and influence it has had.

    Zhou Enlai's statement that it was "too soon to tell" the influence of the French Renaissance is equally applicable to art. Time is what tells what art is important and what isn't. Even when the art no longer resonates with us aesthetically, we can not ignore its historical importance. I don't find anything particularly special about Grecian urns, but I can't ignore their value as an artifact of early European sculpture.

    Edit: Moreover, I suspect that the anecdote about someone asking whether something you produced in paint was a Matisse is an outright lie, or the person who asked that was a moron. I don't know how anyone can confuse a Fauvist style painting with something produced in paint. Perhaps someone who isn't very observant and blind in one eye could confuse one of his paper cutouts for something produced in MSPaint.

    Edit2: Seriously, the artist or ape quiz is so asinine that you'd have to have never seen an abstract painting in your life to not get 100%. Since the vast majority of people, even those with high level educations, know absolutely nothing about abstract expressionism it's easy to understand the score on that basis. Your conclusions just don't follow from your silly quiz.

    As to Jackson Pollock, who is often the target of those who poo poo expressionism, it is of course obvious to anyone with half a brain that anyone could produce a painting using Pollock's splatter technique. However, what made Pollock an influential artist was that he did it first, and on a large scale. He thought of it first, simplicity does not make for bad art. Do you ever see people saying Mozart is a composer because a number of his compositions are very simple. Or does anyone contend that Debussy's "Claire de Lune" is not a beautiful piece of music, despite it requiring little skill to play?
    "I almost went to bed
    without remembering
    the four white violets
    I put in the button-hole
    of your green sweater

    and how i kissed you then
    and you kissed me
    shy as though I'd
    never been your lover "
    - Leonard Cohen
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    At least this time Simus wasn't posting another white supremacist website which suggested that black people should be shipped back to Africa and that a woman's only value is in recruiting more into their flock of hatred and ignorance. I see the asinine nonsequiturs and ridiculous assumptions in the current link to be quite an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_feel_tiredsleepy
    I've taken all of Simus' art quizes and gotten 100% on all of them.
    This is not true.
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