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  1. #1 Art Without Culture 
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    Culture (from the Latin cultura stemming from colere, meaning "to cultivate"

    Uncultivated art lingers inside my head. That is to say potential art, since
    it only becomes art in tangible form. But what does my art say? Does it
    reflect my American culture. I write beautiful piano music that does not
    reflect an American rock & roll culture. Instead my music reflects a different
    and more classical culture. But it is still art? To hear my piano music for free
    go to: http://audioblog-angel.blogspot.com

    I heard on the news the other day that when times get tuff (economy)
    that art is the first thing to go. Do people still care about art if they can't
    pay their bills? It looks that way. What do you think?


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    Unless the art is functional, like arcitechture or some such thing, I don't want anything to do with it. Dinosaur posters that glow in the dark notwithstading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyd
    I heard on the news the other day that when times get tuff (economy)
    that art is the first thing to go. Do people still care about art if they can't
    pay their bills? It looks that way. What do you think?
    People turn to comforts. Recession drives up milk consumption.

    So if your art is comforting, maybe echoing "the good old days" it'll sell.
    A pong by any other name is still a pong. -williampinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyd
    I heard on the news the other day that when times get tuff (economy)
    that art is the first thing to go. Do people still care about art if they can't
    pay their bills? It looks that way. What do you think?
    People turn to comforts. Recession drives up milk consumption.

    So if your art is comforting, maybe echoing "the good old days" it'll sell.
    My art is not for sale but thanks for the thought anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    Unless the art is functional, like arcitechture or some such thing, I don't want anything to do with it. Dinosaur posters that glow in the dark notwithstading.
    Unless it is a dinosaur mormoo wants nothing to do with it.
    So much for culture and art. ......NEXT!
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    I hate dinosaurs.

    PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ART I WANT IT MAKE IT FOR SALE
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    Do people still care about art if they can't
    pay their bills?
    An afternoon in an art gallery is a very inexpensive and uplifting form of entertainment. It's even free the first Saturday of every month in my city, although there are no glow in the dark dinosaur pictures. So, yes many people still care, and it's cheaper than a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    Do people still care about art if they can't
    pay their bills?
    An afternoon in an art gallery is a very inexpensive and uplifting form of entertainment. It's even free the first Saturday of every month in my city, although there are no glow in the dark dinosaur pictures. So, yes many people still care, and it's cheaper than a movie.
    If you're a man, odds are you want to pay that smidge more to see the series of explosions that is known as modern movies than pay to see some non dramatic art...
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    If you're a man, odds are you want to pay that smidge more to see the series of explosions that is known as modern movies than pay to see some non dramatic art...
    Nah, if I'm a man I'd pay for me and the Mrs. to see Frost Nixon, which we did last Saturday and it was a cracking good movie, but notably lacking in exploding things. This did cost more than the art museum, and there was dinner too, but what are you going to do when times are hard? Sit in front of the telly and eat Cheetos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    what are you going to do when times are hard? Sit in front of the telly and eat Cheetos?
    My cat is named Cheeto...

    He's white.

    Anyways, what I do when times are hard? I watch House while drinking a six pack in my underwear. Either that or play left 4 dead. Strangely both video games and TV are fast becoming an art...so is beer brewing, if you aren't cheap and buy an awesome brand. That reminds me...
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    It was a rhetorical question. Now there's an image I didn't need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    what are you going to do when times are hard? Sit in front of the telly and eat Cheetos?
    My cat is named Cheeto...

    He's white.

    Anyways, what I do when times are hard? I watch House while drinking a six pack in my underwear. Either that or play left 4 dead. Strangely both video games and TV are fast becoming an art...so is beer brewing, if you aren't cheap and buy an awesome brand. That reminds me...
    The image of mormoo in his underwear drinking a six pack has killed me.
    I'll be dead now for the rest of this thread.lol
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    art is contemplative and analitic and it cant exist without structured reality to feed it. in times of chrisis the structure is shaken and art loses its necessary foundation. this is why art flourishes violently in times of abundance and success, while scarcity and failure are generally blockers of creativity.
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    I really like Tolstoy's take on art.

    Art must create a specific emotional link between artist and audience, one that "infects" the viewer. Thus, real art requires the capacity to unite people via communication (clearness and genuineness are therefore crucial values).

    What is art?

    Art can be anything that creates an emotional link between artist and audience according to this definition. I was going to point out that for communication for exist semantics needed to be inline too, but communication can also exist without social structures. An example of this would be a predator and prey interaction. The prey, lets say in this case an antelope, is communicated by its predator, a lioness, that his life is in danger... if that doesn't create an emotional link what does?
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    I heard on NPR that there are less jazz performances, but just as many people playing jazz for fun.

    In my opinion, art will be returned to it's rightfull place. Not as a form of entertainment, but as a form of solidarity. Folk and traditional music will become more popular, pop music will die out. More and more people will be fixing their own things and this paves the way for creativity. A car that has every panel a different color, is not just a beater, it's a work of art. 50 year old pair of overalls, that has just as much plaid button up shirt and leather patches as original denim, that's a work of art.


    Gas and food prices go up. More people garden, which is a form of art.

    People might not be going out to look at art as much, but people will no doubt be making art more.
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    I'm not sure it's even desirable, let alone possible, to come up with a Grand Unifying Theory of what art is. It seems much more rewarding to me to approach art on case-by-case basis, one artwork at a time, rather than through the lens of a pre-established theory.
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