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  1. #1 What is cuneiform doing there? 
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    I have recently studied the early human civilizations, hopefully finding the oldest. Of late, I've heard that a few anthropologists ran into Sumerian texts in Peru while investigating old ruins. Other similar Sumerian cuneiform texts have suppososedly been found in auctions by the natives. For some reason I can't find peer reviewed journals on the subject, but I'm wondering if there is any truth to it? If its true, then this changes everything about what we believe is our past. If its true we'd have to wonder how trading between Sumer and South America was possible, before the modernish boats of 1400s.


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    There seems to be something about this on the Bibliotecapleyades sites.
    But keep in mind that that site is a hotbed of crankery and stupidity.


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    ... Sumerian texts in Peru while investigating old ruins
    Really?

    hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    There seems to be something about this on the Bibliotecapleyades sites.But keep in mind that that site is a hotbed of crankery and stupidity.
    wish there was a way to sort through it all. I've found a lot about it online, some of it on the "history" Channel. (Back when it showed actual history) so far, I've found some stuff on "Clyde a winters" who supposedly verified some findings of a few oblivious unnamed researchers as cuneiform. I hate to site these things but The enigma of the monolith of Pokotia, symbol of the Pukara civilitazion- Yuri Leveratto personal web site Is it lunacy or enlightening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamraider View Post
    For some reason I can't find peer reviewed journals on the subject...
    Because they are likely completely fake.
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    I see what your saying...So, he is seeing what he wants to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamraider View Post
    So, he is seeing what he wants to see?
    Yep.
    He has an agenda.
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    A) Cuneiform was done on clay tablets, not stone.
    B) the linked images you supplied look nothing like cuneiform script.

    There was a tendency in the early archaeological community to not want to believe that the "ignorant brown savages" could have created their civilizations on their own. So, they looked for an old world connection to justify their racist predispositions. And, when they couldn't find any evidence to support their viewpoints, some just made it up as they went along.
    This is an old problem that occasionally reappears.
    It has nothing to do with archaeology, and a lot to do with racism.
    Unfortunately it was not possible to determine the exact place where the monolith was found.
    The fact that no one could identify the original location of the monolith of Pokotia, should raise the level of doubt all by itself.

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    While agreeing that cuniaform writing in Peru is most likely misinterpatation, hoax or flat out lies, we have to remenber that people, even primative people, travel. Small boats occasionally cross oceans. It is possible for random travelers to end up thousands of miles from home and to pass on ideas from their native cultures. These events are not common or likely but neither are they impossible
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    There is a large body of research supporting the notion that diverse peoples in diverse times were capable of lengthy voyages by sea, or slow migration along coastal and short oceanic routes. None of this would support the examples you are speaking of. Moreover the separation in dates of the relevant civilisations appears, superficially at least, to discount any possibility.
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