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  1. #1 Possible ancient bone bead?? 
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    Hello,

    Looking for opinions on what this "rock" could be. My dad found it mixed in with some gravel while working up in northern Alberta (way up north, Manning area) and brought it to me to see if I could track down what it was. I asked around my office, and the best response I got was a bead made by indians, potentially bone. I believe it is either some sort of organic material, or a sandstone. There is a hole in the center that looks like it may have been burnt in due to the odd shape. We were able to put a couple scratches in it with a screwdriver, and the object sinks in water.

    appologize for the pics, taken with an iPhone. If better pictures are required, let me know and I'll take some with my camera at home.

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    i doubt that anyone could offer a definitive answer from your photographs
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    they do raise a curiousity to know more
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    it looks a bit like a viking sewing whorl
    here's a link to a picture(1/2 way down the page)


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    Thanks sculptor,

    Is the link somewhere in you message? I can't see to find it??
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    oops, sorry about that
    link didn't post, and i've lost it, however, whorls are common archaeological finds
    google it
    good luck
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    It says here they can be 2.5 cm to 10 cm in diameter, but I'd have thought you needed something bigger for a flywheel effect.Archaeology Wordsmith
    spindle whorlCATEGORY: artifact
    DEFINITION: A circular object with a central perforation intended to act as a fly wheel on a spindle, giving momentum to its rotation -- an artifact providing evidence of the spinning of thread. It would maintain the momentum of the spindle rotated by the spinner while he/she teases more fibers out of a fleece. They may be of stone, bone, or pottery, varying from flat disks to spherical or pyriform, and ranging 2.5-10 cm in diameter.
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    It could easily be both a bead and a spindle whorl judging from your pictures. Spindle whorls come in a lot of different varieties and their size varies depending on what kind of string or thread you are making.

    Here's one, quite small example (about 1,7-1,8 cm in diameter):
    http://www.nordek.net/sites/default/files/dsc_2037.jpg

    it looks a bit like a viking sewing whorl
    Wouldn't it be incredible if Vikings ever made it all the way to northern Alberta?
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    My advice is to take it to a museum and/or university and ask an archaeologist.Google will not give you a definitive answer. I've found stuff before, too, and taken it to the museum to show a family friend, and he was able to 100% identify everything.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceal View Post
    Wouldn't it be incredible if Vikings ever made it all the way to northern Alberta?
    no
    I'd find it likely
    They likely found their way to minnisota
    It was warmer when the northmen went a viking
    and the canadian northwest passage is open over 6 weeks every year now
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    no
    I'd find it likely
    They likely found their way to minnisota
    It was warmer when the northmen went a viking
    and the canadian northwest passage is open over 6 weeks every year now
    That'd be cool, but is there any evidence to support that?
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    Intervertebral disk off a small mammal?

    Unfortunately as soon as it was removed it probably stripped of its most important information to an archaeologist--where was it located.

    If was a bead, I don't think it makes much difference about the climate--such small and easy to carry items are pretty well dispersed across continents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceal View Post
    no
    I'd find it likely
    They likely found their way to minnisota
    It was warmer when the northmen went a viking
    and the canadian northwest passage is open over 6 weeks every year now
    That'd be cool, but is there any evidence to support that?
    perhaps
    kensington rune stone minnesota(debated)
    settlement on hudson bay(disputed)
    but then again the settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows was debated for 20 years before being accepted

    they went as far as the caspean sea, and africa, so traveling uprivers in america from the bays and arctic ocean wasn't beyond the ability of the boats.
    but archaeology is a tricky business ---miss a good dig site by a few feet and find nothing, or get lucky
    As tha arctic warms, there may be more luck ahead?
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