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    So for who don't know, at one point Harold14370 and some other people had a bit of a tiff on the forums and Harold14370 started causing some mayhem. For some reason my password had expired and I couldn't come on and mediate properly. I asked him multiple times to please send me a password reset email, but he just never responded. He then abandoned the forum and it eventually went to ruin with no admin around.

    So having heard that the forum has been brought back, I have returned and removed Harold14370's privileges and banned him for what he did.

    It is kind of sad, because Harold was one of the people I always was looking up to ever since I came here in 2007 and he served the site in many ways for a long time. The way it degenerated was very disappointing indeed.

    I do still wish Harold all the best and I want to thank him for what he meant to the forum for years.

    It is very unfortunate indeed that it has come to this.

    Thanks!

    PS: Thanks to @Geordief for letting my know about the forum coming back!


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    So that's what it was all about. I assume then that he was in control for a lot of the time, what is the status of the forum now then? Who is the admin and who maintains it? It is good that it can return once again. I also remember Harold back in the day, he was a highly informative and patient member and it is a shame it had to come to this, but anyway onwards to the future! Thanks KALSTER for all your positive enthusiasm to the site and informing everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    So that's what it was all about. I assume then that he was in control for a lot of the time, what is the status of the forum now then? Who is the admin and who maintains it? It is good that it can return once again. I also remember Harold back in the day, he was a highly informative and patient member and it is a shame it had to come to this, but anyway onwards to the future! Thanks KALSTER for all your positive enthusiasm to the site and informing everyone.
    Kalster is the admin now but he doesn't have full permission to work on the site as he is not the owner and the owner is practically impossible to contact . It is a bit of a mystery. In my opinion the owner of this site is a very poor owner. It would be better if he was to sell to someone who ,as they say did give a s**t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    So that's what it was all about. I assume then that he was in control for a lot of the time, what is the status of the forum now then? Who is the admin and who maintains it? It is good that it can return once again. I also remember Harold back in the day, he was a highly informative and patient member and it is a shame it had to come to this, but anyway onwards to the future! Thanks KALSTER for all your positive enthusiasm to the site and informing everyone.
    Kalster is the admin now but he doesn't have full permission to work on the site as he is not the owner and the owner is practically impossible to contact . It is a bit of a mystery. In my opinion the owner of this site is a very poor owner. It would be better if he was to sell to someone who ,as they say did give a s**t.
    I have promoted Markus Hanke to Admin as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    So that's what it was all about. I assume then that he was in control for a lot of the time, what is the status of the forum now then? Who is the admin and who maintains it? It is good that it can return once again. I also remember Harold back in the day, he was a highly informative and patient member and it is a shame it had to come to this, but anyway onwards to the future! Thanks KALSTER for all your positive enthusiasm to the site and informing everyone.
    Kalster is the admin now but he doesn't have full permission to work on the site as he is not the owner and the owner is practically impossible to contact . It is a bit of a mystery. In my opinion the owner of this site is a very poor owner. It would be better if he was to sell to someone who ,as they say did give a s**t.
    I have promoted Markus Hanke to Admin as well.
    I forgot that . A very good choice.
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    Glad to things are back up, and taking a good fresh start
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    Great choice KALSTER!
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    So is it ok to start new threads now?
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    I don't know

    Took me two days to change my photo to the one I took last fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyoko View Post
    So is it ok to start new threads now?
    I did ......in the politics section.
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    I am just so happy this site is up
    it is kind of like my chat room
    It frankly is archaic in many ways but it is spot on and current

    so you talk to people as they are on and debate and discuss

    Facebook doesn't offer me that

    And this site.

    well I am not a science person....I am an arts person, but I learn from you.....though I probably contribute little to this forum.....but I sure have missed it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I don't know

    Took me two days to change my photo to the one I took last fall
    What was the problem? Slow to upload or no response at all?
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    It is working now but wouldn't accept......said invalid

    but it is working now

    OK so this is how I look 7 years later

    Don't throw rocks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    It is working now but wouldn't accept......said invalid

    but it is working now

    OK so this is how I look 7 years later

    Don't throw rocks!
    Maybe the photo was too large or the wrong format. That is the kind of problem I encounter (on other sites).
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    It is working now but wouldn't accept......said invalid

    but it is working now

    OK so this is how I look 7 years later

    Don't throw rocks!
    Maybe the photo was too large or the wrong format. That is the kind of problem I encounter (on other sites).
    Nope reloaded the same photo 8 times *L*

    but it is working now....and OUCH
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    I liked Harold. Sorry to see him go. Although I didn't pay that much attention to him I got the feeling he slowly became corrupted with power. Like the kid nobody wants on their team but who owned the ball, that kind of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    I liked Harold. Sorry to see him go. Although I didn't pay that much attention to him I got the feeling he slowly became corrupted with power. Like the kid nobody wants on their team but who owned the ball, that kind of power.
    I may be hallucinating but did he not turn theist-extraordinaire and hate on stuff science stood for? I really don't feel comfortable commenting on this, but since it meant the end of this forum, I will accept it.
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    Anyone who would destroy this forum for his own ego....

    Sorry

    can't support.....
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    I may be hallucinating but did he not turn theist-extraordinaire and hate on stuff science stood for?
    He threw a tantrum and demoted a mod who moderated his posts in a politics discussion. He seemed to think he was above the rules. When people protested he went full Colonel Kurtz...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    I may be hallucinating but did he not turn theist-extraordinaire and hate on stuff science stood for?
    He threw a tantrum and demoted a mod who moderated his posts in a politics discussion. He seemed to think he was above the rules. When people protested he went full Colonel Kurtz...
    HEIL guy?

    I just can't feel sorry for a guy who sabotaged this forum.

    I wish I could, but I can't.
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    Could he return as a mod and not as an admin? Or even just as a member?

    He couldn't do any harm ,could he ? (if he wanted to take part)
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Could he return as a mod and not as an admin? Or even just as a member?

    He couldn't do any harm ,could he ? (if he wanted to take part)
    I would be fine with it as long as not in an official capacity
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Could he return as a mod and not as an admin? Or even just as a member?

    He couldn't do any harm ,could he ? (if he wanted to take part)
    I would vote no on this. His abuse of power and freak out was unforgivable. If we were to open ourselves up to this sort of leniency then to be fair we would have to offer the chance to return to many people who were brilliant in one subject but reprehensible in other ways.
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    I agree, he was good with the engineering topics, but out side of thst he let his political and religious feeling rule, and did nto like anyone questioning them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconer360 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Could he return as a mod and not as an admin? Or even just as a member?

    He couldn't do any harm ,could he ? (if he wanted to take part)
    I would vote no on this. His abuse of power and freak out was unforgivable. If we were to open ourselves up to this sort of leniency then to be fair we would have to offer the chance to return to many people who were brilliant in one subject but reprehensible in other ways.
    But just as a member would it be OK ? (not that I suppose he would want to but I didn't know him too well)
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    To be honest, I think the situation he created removed any possibility of him returning. Especially given thst his attitude at the end was he was god and infallible
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    I think that letting him return after such a fiasco would be opening a door that we don't want to open. We shouldn't be lenient on him just because he was good at engineering. That is akin to people who skirt actual legal punishment for their crimes because they have a skill that's useful or a ton of money.

    And lets be honest if he really desired to come back he would just create a sockpuppet and pretend to be someone new. Many former users have done the same to varying degrees of success. Some manage to pull their shit together and become better members as their sock than as their original account (although I've only seen this done once).
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    Anywhere else on the Internet something much less than what he did would be an instant and permanent ban, including any alts and sock puppets they may create.
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    I doubt he'd want to. He lost respect from everyone on this Forum. IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I am just so happy this site is up
    it is kind of like my chat room
    It frankly is archaic in many ways but it is spot on and current

    so you talk to people as they are on and debate and discuss

    Facebook doesn't offer me that

    And this site.

    well I am not a science person....I am an arts person, but I learn from you.....though I probably contribute little to this forum.....but I sure have missed it!
    I can understand that. I post on a little privateish forum in Australia. I have known these people for nigh on 17 years. Met quite a few in RL. We talk about all sorts.

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