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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    You'll be banned for sure!
     

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    I'm FiveDoughnut.

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    If people don't know, Doughnut was a master at creating socks cause his impoliteness to cranks was unparalleled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    I love the way you have a unique writing style and regional accent for each one as well as that you post under multiple genders with your sock puppets.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    I love the way you have a unique writing style and regional accent for each one as well as that you post under multiple genders with your sock puppets.
    What are you supporting the use of sockpuppets? Aren't you sending the wrong message there?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    I love the way you have a unique writing style and regional accent for each one as well as that you post under multiple genders with your sock puppets.
    What are you supporting the use of sockpuppets? Aren't you sending the wrong message there?
    Ironic humor, Robbitybob. I am confident that the majority who have have read my posts for any time understand that I am jesting with John Galt.

    I am off to work graveyard shift now because I am a night 'stalker', lol...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    I love the way you have a unique writing style and regional accent for each one as well as that you post under multiple genders with your sock puppets.
    What are you supporting the use of sockpuppets? Aren't you sending the wrong message there?
    Ironic humor, Robbitybob. I am confident that the majority who have have read my posts for any time understand that I am jesting with John Galt.

    I am off to work graveyard shift now because I am a night 'stalker', lol...
    Who's pulling who's leg? lol Just keep that tyrant in line please.
     

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    Bob, please stop posting on this thread. Thank you.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenRatio View Post
    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.

    Member babe was nominated by member GiantEvil in post #97, but she declined that (albeit it was not expressed clearly) in post #144:
    Quote Originally Posted by babe
    I agree. They are always fair I their comments and Flick is too. Many good choices on that list.

    But who in the hell nominated ME? *chuckle*


    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist!

    Do I have to add your vote, or do you wish to cast another vote?
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenRatio View Post
    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.

    HOWLING!! YES THEY have!

    Not for my science knowledge, which I freely admit I lack, but I have gleaned some from the smart though NON theatre people here!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.
    The forum would descend into flamboyant chaos.
    There'd be slaps and feathers everywhere...
    Oh my god....I read that and spit out my water all over my desk.....BASTARD!! *L*....shaving your forehead!!!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.

    Member babe was nominated by member GiantEvil in post #97, but she declined that (albeit it was not expressed clearly) in post #144:
    Quote Originally Posted by babe
    I agree. They are always fair I their comments and Flick is too. Many good choices on that list.

    But who in the hell nominated ME? *chuckle*


    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist!

    Do I have to add your vote, or do you wish to cast another vote?


    I am not the right person to moderate a science site. The nominations were sweet and FUNNY!!!! *smacking* Red Panda, but I am a theatre whore, here to learn and sometimes make you laugh at yourselves.
    So yes, I declined. *S*
    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist! But I appreciate the thought!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.

    Member babe was nominated by member GiantEvil in post #97, but she declined that (albeit it was not expressed clearly) in post #144:
    Quote Originally Posted by babe
    I agree. They are always fair I their comments and Flick is too. Many good choices on that list.

    But who in the hell nominated ME? *chuckle*


    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist!

    Do I have to add your vote, or do you wish to cast another vote?


    I am not the right person to moderate a science site. The nominations were sweet and FUNNY!!!! *smacking* Red Panda, but I am a theatre whore, here to learn and sometimes make you laugh at yourselves.
    So yes, I declined. *S*
    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist! But I appreciate the thought!
    Thank you for being realistic and honest.
     

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    My votes go to the duck, Flick Montana and CES.
     

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    My vote goes to who pays me enough!
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    I don't currently want to cast a vote, but I did want to say thanks to the few people that voted for me. I have no idea whether or not I would have accepted, but it doesn't seem like I'll have to make that choice anyway.
     

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    Though strongly for ExChemist
     

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    Well, let the record reflect that when I am banished from this forum due to either continuous references to cartoon meme's or quick witted flak tossed at cretin newbies asking asinine questions that produce polyps on my ass. I hereby request that a member of equal or better beauty of babe is the one who swings that hammer XD


    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    i don't see anyone being intimidated or threatened because of who they voted for + there can't be any accusations of vote rigging, since it's all above board
    Just wait till I activate my twenty three sock puppets.
    Is zuccoti manicotti included in your puppet repertoire?

     

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    Part of me wants to nominate Babe, but I think she would eventually find the job distressing. She is too nice not feel bad about slapping people down when they deserve it. So, don't count this as a vote for her. (Hopefully she recognizes this as a compliment and not an insult).

    At the opposite extreme we have Sir Duck. I respect the guy, but he does seem a little quick to stomp on what he sees as nonsense. To be sure, the vast majority of what he stomps on IS nonsense, but still, his style is definitely confrontational. Give him moderator rights and I suspect that confrontational attitude would rapidly come to be seen as tyrannical. He has said himself he doubts he would be a good moderator. I think it is best to let him continue as he has in the past, confronting nonsense with logic and demands for proof rather than editing or banning rights. So, don't count this as a vote for him, either.

    Scheherazade is my first choice.
    PHDemon my second.

    There are surely other deserving people here, but those are the ones that have most come to my notice as levelheaded and reliable in my somewhat limited time here.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    anyone nominated babe yet? I like a little eye candy when I am being banished.

    Member babe was nominated by member GiantEvil in post #97, but she declined that (albeit it was not expressed clearly) in post #144:
    Quote Originally Posted by babe
    I agree. They are always fair I their comments and Flick is too. Many good choices on that list.

    But who in the hell nominated ME? *chuckle*


    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist!

    Do I have to add your vote, or do you wish to cast another vote?


    I am not the right person to moderate a science site. The nominations were sweet and FUNNY!!!! *smacking* Red Panda, but I am a theatre whore, here to learn and sometimes make you laugh at yourselves.
    So yes, I declined. *S*
    I am a theatre whore, not a scientist! But I appreciate the thought!
    Thank you for being realistic and honest.
    You are welcome! However I can beat your ass on stage, musically, or acting, hands down!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhanegan View Post
    Part of me wants to nominate Babe, but I think she would eventually find the job distressing. She is too nice not feel bad about slapping people down when they deserve it. So, don't count this as a vote for her. (Hopefully she recognizes this as a compliment and not an insult).

    At the opposite extreme we have Sir Duck. I respect the guy, but he does seem a little quick to stomp on what he sees as nonsense. To be sure, the vast majority of what he stomps on IS nonsense, but still, his style is definitely confrontational. Give him moderator rights and I suspect that confrontational attitude would rapidly come to be seen as tyrannical. He has said himself he doubts he would be a good moderator. I think it is best to let him continue as he has in the past, confronting nonsense with logic and demands for proof rather than editing or banning rights. So, don't count this as a vote for him, either.

    Scheherazade is my first choice.
    PHDemon my second.

    There are surely other deserving people here, but those are the ones that have most come to my notice as levelheaded and reliable in my somewhat limited time here.
    I have to burst your bubble!! *L* I am a moderator on another site and I am quite adept at slapping hands, however, that said, this is NOT my forte. I am a musical and comedic theatre actor, not a scientist. I could not adequately make science decisions. I could make harassment or PEOPLE decisions.

    You did not, in any way shape or form insult me, Sir Dan. I very much respect you.

    I know when to say, "I am not qualified." And I am happy to admit that.
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    What if xyzt was a mod?
     

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    I wish to add further nominations of Speedfreek, Panda, Tranquille, Bad Robot & Mac.
    Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it. - confucius
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I could not adequately make science decisions. I could make harassment or PEOPLE decisions.
    Maybe this is exactly what forums like this one need - someone who sorts out the egos while being completely unbiased about the science, by virtue of not knowing much about it.
     

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    Up to post #323, the top five reads as follows:

    Cogito Ergo Sum 17
    Dywyddyr 16
    scheherazade 16
    PhDemon 12
    Paleoichneum 10

    If you wish to know all the nominees and their respective number of votes, please consult post #69.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
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    I could not adequately make science decisions. I could make harassment or PEOPLE decisions.
    Maybe this is exactly what forums like this one need - someone who sorts out the egos while being completely unbiased about the science, by virtue of not knowing much about it.

    Do you honestly believe that?

    Don't know if I can agree. Yes, I am used to working with humans of all walks, and I can discern stuff and then yes, when people are idiots I am warning one, two, three and take a vacation where I do moderate, but this is a SCIENCE Forum! I couldn't discern a science issue. I know I can only discern a human issue, been doing that for 20 years on a site, but this is science! I am IGNORANT! I admit it!

    There are several of you in here who have been so kind to me in explaining what I was ignorant of. I do appreciate that....and Markus, you know I think the WORLD of you, and Ducky, and Demon and so so so many others. Thank you for you kind words!! MAHALA NUI LOA!!
     

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    Mods should be active participants.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw View Post
    Mods should be active participants.
    Good point
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    There are several of you in here who have been so kind to me in explaining what I was ignorant of.
    You're female, so we've only scratched the surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    There are several of you in here who have been so kind to me in explaining what I was ignorant of.
    You're female, so we've only scratched the surface.

    DUCK PATE IS IN ORDER...oh.....and I get the feathers.......who wants the breast....trust me you'll have to pound the SHIT out of those hard things... *cough*

    and I am not talking Ducky's PRIVIES!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    There are several of you in here who have been so kind to me in explaining what I was ignorant of.
    You're female, so we've only scratched the surface.

    DUCK PATE IS IN ORDER...oh.....and I get the feathers.......who wants the breast....trust me you'll have to pound the SHIT out of those hard things... *cough*

    and I am not talking Ducky's PRIVIES!
    Madame: you knew the duck is an ass, and lately you've been all admiration for him for some reason. His attitude toward women proves to me that he is unfit to be a moderator.

    Perhaps this belongs in the 'What are you reading' thread, but I have hesitated to post it there because I am afraid it will look like I can't even afford books from Amazon if I say I am reading Anna Karenina at the moment. Tolstoy s my main man these days, and he has this to say about women:
    Levin thought... not because he considered himself "wise and
    prudent." He did not so consider himself, but he could not help knowing
    that he had more intellect than his wife and Agafea Mihalovna, and he
    could not help knowing that when he thought of death, he thought with
    all the force of his intellect. He knew too that the brains of many
    great men, whose thoughts he had read, had brooded over death and yet
    knew not a hundredth part of what his wife and Agafea Mihalovna knew
    about it. Different as those two women were, Agafea Mihalovna and Katya... were quite alike in this.
    Both knew, without a
    shade of doubt, what sort of thing life was and what was death, and
    though neither of them could have answered, and would even not have
    understood the questions that presented themselves to Levin, both had no
    doubt of the significance of this event, and were precisely alike in
    their way of looking at it, which they shared with millions of people.
    The proof that they knew for a certainty the nature of death lay in the
    fact that they knew without a second of hesitation how to deal with the
    dying, and were not frightened of them. Levin and other men like him,
    though they could have said a great deal about death, obviously did not
    know this since they were afraid of death, and were absolutely at a loss
    what to do when people were dying. If Levin had been alone now with his
    brother Nikolay, he would have looked at him with terror, and with still
    greater terror waited, and would not have known what else to do.
    I emboldened certain parts for the readers' convenience. My point is women are often wiser than men, especially in essential matters like life and death. Women are thought impractical by men, but the truth is they understand a brand of pragmatism men have no clue about - except for me .

    Apologies for getting off-topic somewhat. We have been asked to post upon this thread only to vote, but i see that even some of the candidates ignore that request, and I think that what I have said is pertinent to the fact that the duck is not a good choice for moderator. Danhanegan expressed it well in Post #318.

    Bye for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    His attitude toward women proves to me that he is unfit to be a moderator.
    You might, possibly, be qualified to say that.
    IF you knew what my actual attitude was.
    As it is, all you've done here is show that your previous claim (elsewhere) to have a "scientifically provable" sense of humour just fell somewhat flat.
    Taking one statement at face value 1 and ignoring the entire context of exchanges between Babe and I 2 doesn't bode well for your comprehension (or, perhaps, willingness to look at the entire picture 3).

    Danhanegan expressed it well in Post #318.
    What Danhanegan missed is that posting utter crap is itself confrontational.
    (Vide my comments spread elsewhere around the forum regarding skateboarding at classical music concerts).


    1 Especially since you recently posted directly after me in the "irony and sarcasm" thread.
    2 And, apparently ignoring prior posts about the relationship that she and I have in this thread.
    3 That unwillingness being shown elsewhere in this thread.
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    Duck! What paranoia! What ethnocentrism! My remarks about sarcasm in another thread were merely in defense of the OP not being able to help himself from coming off as sarcastic in real life. The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric. (See Post #10)

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting. No, Brother Dywyddr, you should not be a moderator when you are incapable of moderation.

    What I can know and do know, or whether I am funny or not is not the issue. The issue is who should be our new moderator, and I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    And what does the Lord require of you but to love justice, to be merciful and to walk humbly with Him?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric.
    Ah, understood.
    You missed, completely ,what I said and assumed that I took it as attack on me.
    C'est la vie...

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.
    More evidence that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.
    Let me try again.
    UNLESS you know how Babe and I interact then taking one comment at face value doesn't give you the relevant context.
    And, like I said, since I pointed out that you posted in a thread (directly after me) where we had been discussing irony, that should have been a clue.
    You know: irony, saying something that has a meaning beyond (and usually opposite to) the face value of the words.
    Get an adult to explain it to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting.
    And another failure to understand on your part.
    No, I'm not calling Dan's post crap.
    It was an indication that the posts by the nutters (as Dan mentioned) I get "confrontational" about are themselves aggressive and arrogant. They are (however worded) an attack on rationality, science itself and clear thinking.

    I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    Of course you can't.
    But that's based on your lack of comprehension, among other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric.
    Ah, understood.
    You missed, completely ,what I said and assumed that I took it as attack on me.
    C'est la vie...

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.
    More evidence that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.
    Let me try again.
    UNLESS you know how Babe and I interact then taking one comment at face value doesn't give you the relevant context.
    And, like I said, since I pointed out that you posted in a thread (directly after me) where we had been discussing irony, that should have been a clue.
    You know: irony, saying something that has a meaning beyond (and usually opposite to) the face value of the words.
    Get an adult to explain it to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting.
    And another failure to understand on your part.
    No, I'm not calling Dan's post crap.
    It was an indication that the posts by the nutters (as Dan mentioned) I get "confrontational" about are themselves aggressive and arrogant. They are (however worded) an attack on rationality, science itself and clear thinking.

    I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    Of course you can't.
    But that's based on your lack of comprehension, among other things.
    All right I misread 'after' as ' at' in 'you recently posted directly after me in the "irony and sarcasm" thread' but let's wait to hear from Babe as to whether or not you offended her. I see what you mean about your danhanegan remarks (You: "What Danhanegan missed is that posting utter crap is itself confrontational.") But only because you've explained it clearly. Before it really looks like you mean dan himself.

    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
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    I forgot to ask, what forum will this new mod be in charge of or is there more than one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.
    Nope.
    The error here is yours.
    Whether or not YOU failed to understand my irony is utterly irrelevant.
    It was directed at, and meant for, Babe.
    And I'm 99% certain that Babe took the remark as I intended.
    (One indication that she in fact did would be her response).

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
    Yeah, this from the guy who fails to understand irony, fails to appreciate (or understand or bother about) context and has, more than once, displayed hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    I forgot to ask, what forum will this new mod be in charge of or is there more than one?
    AFAIK all mods are "responsible" for the entire forum, rather than set sub-fora.
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    This thread needs to be sprayed for a drama infestation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    I forgot to ask, what forum will this new mod be in charge of or is there more than one?
    AFAIK all mods are "responsible" for the entire forum, rather than set sub-fora.

    So all mods that are here have to read all posts from all forums and deal with them? that would be a real task to keep up with on a daily duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    So all mods that are here have to read all posts from all forums and deal with them? that would be a real task to keep up with on a daily duty.
    I hope not, and really doubt it.
    Unless informed otherwise (by the mods) I'd say that there's some - possibly a good deal of - dependency on reporting offensive (in whatever way someone deems something "offense") posts by members 1.
    Rapidly-growing threads would be an indicator of high traffic and quick responses (with a concomitant likelihood of trolling/ insults/ lack of actual support) and would likely be looked at, but otherwise I'd guess that "business as usual" - i.e. looking mainly at topics/ threads the mod is interested in with the odd excursion to "less captivating" topics would be the norm.
    By and large the members of the forum are *cough* responsible adults 2 and there is, to a large extent, some consensus (whether consciously and overtly or not) on what is acceptable and what isn't.
    When someone steps over the/ a line a form of "self-policing" takes place, up to and including calling for a response from the mods.

    1 On the grounds that, if no one complains it's unlikely there's a problem. (This, of course, may not always be the case, it's possible that no one's complained because they assumed that some/ every one else has, but...)
    2 Apologies to those who don't want to be classed in this category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    So all mods that are here have to read all posts from all forums and deal with them? that would be a real task to keep up with on a daily duty.
    I hope not, and really doubt it.
    Unless informed otherwise (by the mods) I'd say that there's some - possibly a good deal of - dependency on reporting offensive (in whatever way someone deems something "offense") posts by members 1.
    Rapidly-growing threads would be an indicator of high traffic and quick responses (with a concomitant likelihood of trolling/ insults/ lack of actual support) and would likely be looked at, but otherwise I'd guess that "business as usual" - i.e. looking mainly at topics/ threads the mod is interested in with the odd excursion to "less captivating" topics would be the norm.
    By and large the members of the forum are *cough* responsible adults 2 and there is, to a large extent, some consensus (whether consciously and overtly or not) on what is acceptable and what isn't.
    When someone steps over the/ a line a form of "self-policing" takes place, up to and including calling for a response from the mods.

    1 On the grounds that, if no one complains it's unlikely there's a problem. (This, of course, may not always be the case, it's possible that no one's complained because they assumed that some/ every one else has, but...)
    2 Apologies to those who don't want to be classed in this category.
    I've followed this discussion with interest. One thing that doesn't seem to have come up (but feel free to ignore this if it has) is the issue of keeping a thread on-topic. It sometimes occurs that, either through evolution of a thread or due to someone hijacking it, it goes off at a tangent. I would certainly suggest a mod should intervene to prevent hijacking: some of the less confident posters may feel frustrated but not feel able to object forcefully enough to stop it. Regarding topic "drift" via good quality discussion, I suppose that is a harder one to call. There may come a point at which it is better to restart a section of the thread under a new heading, rather than leave it under a heading that no longer reflects the content being posted, since to leave it would do a disservice to readers arriving late to the discussion. I'm almost sure I've seen this done, but not often.
     

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    Questions need to be answered by mods.

    can we pm some valuable members to vote here?

    And what is the number of posts required to participate in voting. otherwise using of sock puppets can give victory to a member not wanted by regulars. What is mechanism to have check on sock puppets specially for this thread?

    can votes cast for member (A)be further delegated to member (B), with permission from member (A) ?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    One thing that doesn't seem to have come up (but feel free to ignore this if it has) is the issue of keeping a thread on-topic. It sometimes occurs that, either through evolution of a thread or due to someone hijacking it, it goes off at a tangent. I would certainly suggest a mod should intervene to prevent hijacking: some of the less confident posters may feel frustrated but not feel able to object forcefully enough to stop it. Regarding topic "drift" via good quality discussion, I suppose that is a harder one to call. There may come a point at which it is better to restart a section of the thread under a new heading, rather than leave it under a heading that no longer reflects the content being posted, since to leave it would do a disservice to readers arriving late to the discussion. I'm almost sure I've seen this done, but not often.
    That's an almost permanent "problem" (or, at least it occurs in many threads).
    In some cases it's a genuine problem, in others it's a "natural progression".
    I do recall John Galt (making a go at) pulling a number of threads back onto topic but can't remember many (any?) instances of off-topic posts being deleted or pulled off into a different thread.
    I've participated in threads where it's drifted (and, to be honest, I've contributed to that drift in some cases).
    And I'm not entirely sure how that should be handled - if the general trend is "away" should a mod enforce a return to topic or accept the "mutual decision" 1?
    Short of unilateral mod intervention (which may or may not be appreciated) I suppose that X number of posts/ reports asking "WTF happened to the original topic?" would be an indicator that there's considered to be some value to the continuation of the OP.

    1 Trolling/ personal arguments excepted of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    One thing that doesn't seem to have come up (but feel free to ignore this if it has) is the issue of keeping a thread on-topic. It sometimes occurs that, either through evolution of a thread or due to someone hijacking it, it goes off at a tangent. I would certainly suggest a mod should intervene to prevent hijacking: some of the less confident posters may feel frustrated but not feel able to object forcefully enough to stop it. Regarding topic "drift" via good quality discussion, I suppose that is a harder one to call. There may come a point at which it is better to restart a section of the thread under a new heading, rather than leave it under a heading that no longer reflects the content being posted, since to leave it would do a disservice to readers arriving late to the discussion. I'm almost sure I've seen this done, but not often.
    That's an almost permanent "problem" (or, at least it occurs in many threads).
    In some cases it's a genuine problem, in others it's a "natural progression".
    I do recall John Galt (making a go at) pulling a number of threads back onto topic but can't remember many (any?) instances of off-topic posts being deleted or pulled off into a different thread.
    I've participated in threads where it's drifted (and, to be honest, I've contributed to that drift in some cases).
    And I'm not entirely sure how that should be handled - if the general trend is "away" should a mod enforce a return to topic or accept the "mutual decision" 1?
    Short of unilateral mod intervention (which may or may not be appreciated) I suppose that X number of posts/ reports asking "WTF happened to the original topic?" would be an indicator that there's considered to be some value to the continuation of the OP.

    1 Trolling/ personal arguments excepted of course.
    This is definitely a tough issue for mods. Especially because some posters seem to go off on a tangent and then wrap it back to how it affects the OP. This thread here is a perfect example of how threads become derailed. Look at how many times, the mods had to politely tell posters to get back on topic. Whenever I accidentally derail a thread I always try and start a separate thread on the new subject if there is interest.
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    One effective method of getting a thread back on topic is to reference the OP or the most pertinent recent post and reply to it, thusly. In a few situations I have seen a moderator remove posts and start a new thread if the derail is turning out to be an interesting side conversation or topic.

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    As there are only a few active moderators now, the time has come to add new moderators. We are intending to add two more. The "unofficial" nomination thread will be closed shortly to avoid confusion.

    We need to do this from time to time, because people lose interest and move on to other things, and because we tend to have a lot of older members (like me) with a limited shelf life.

    Rules will be as follows:
    For purposes of this process, "nominate" and "vote" means the same thing.
    1. All members including moderators can nominate one or more members. There is no limit on the number of people you can nominate, but of course you may only vote for each member once.
    2. Nominations will be closed in 2 weeks (end of the day on October 9).
    3. The top 2 vote getters who do not decline the nomination will be promoted to moderator.
    4. If you nominated somebody in the other unofficial thread, please re-submit here so that I won't have to sort out the serious nominations from the frivolous.
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    One thing that you (as moderators) will have to deal with is "Moderated Posts" which remain invisible to non-moderators until you deal with them explicitly. Moderated posts can occur if a new member posts with contained links etc. Sometimes this is a spam post. Sometimes a new member simply quotes another member whose post contains links. And sometimes because a new poster cannot see their moderated post, they post it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    One effective method of getting a thread back on topic is to reference the OP or the most pertinent recent post and reply to it, thusly. In a few situations I have seen a moderator remove posts and start a new thread if the derail is turning out to be an interesting side conversation or topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    As there are only a few active moderators now, the time has come to add new moderators. We are intending to add two more. The "unofficial" nomination thread will be closed shortly to avoid confusion.

    We need to do this from time to time, because people lose interest and move on to other things, and because we tend to have a lot of older members (like me) with a limited shelf life.

    Rules will be as follows:
    For purposes of this process, "nominate" and "vote" means the same thing.
    1. All members including moderators can nominate one or more members. There is no limit on the number of people you can nominate, but of course you may only vote for each member once.
    2. Nominations will be closed in 2 weeks (end of the day on October 9).
    3. The top 2 vote getters who do not decline the nomination will be promoted to moderator.
    4. If you nominated somebody in the other unofficial thread, please re-submit here so that I won't have to sort out the serious nominations from the frivolous.
    ETA:
    5. You cannot vote for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    This thread needs to be sprayed for a drama infestation.
    I think this thread needs something stronger. Perhaps an enema to clean all the shit out.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
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    The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric.
    Ah, understood.
    You missed, completely ,what I said and assumed that I took it as attack on me.
    C'est la vie...

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.
    More evidence that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.
    Let me try again.
    UNLESS you know how Babe and I interact then taking one comment at face value doesn't give you the relevant context.
    And, like I said, since I pointed out that you posted in a thread (directly after me) where we had been discussing irony, that should have been a clue.
    You know: irony, saying something that has a meaning beyond (and usually opposite to) the face value of the words.
    Get an adult to explain it to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting.
    And another failure to understand on your part.
    No, I'm not calling Dan's post crap.
    It was an indication that the posts by the nutters (as Dan mentioned) I get "confrontational" about are themselves aggressive and arrogant. They are (however worded) an attack on rationality, science itself and clear thinking.

    I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    Of course you can't.
    But that's based on your lack of comprehension, among other things.
    All right I misread 'after' as ' at' in 'you recently posted directly after me in the "irony and sarcasm" thread' but let's wait to hear from Babe as to whether or not you offended her. I see what you mean about your danhanegan remarks (You: "What Danhanegan missed is that posting utter crap is itself confrontational.") But only because you've explained it clearly. Before it really looks like you mean dan himself.

    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
    I have to say, 甘肃人, you're being disruptive. Dywyddyr is a veteran member of this forum and you, being a newbie, are being incredibly disrespectful....practically mouthing off at him and resorting to name calling.

    Your squabble with Dywyddyr eerily is obnoxious and obtuse. In fact, why are you even weighing in on this debate at all about moderators? Aren't you 'new' around here?? I don't know anyone here well enough to opinine about this. IMHO it's a debate that should be left to long-standing members.
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    We need a mod in here... Clean up on aisle three! Seriously, though let's keep this damn thread about moderator nomination and issues that relate to that.


    Quote Originally Posted by scienceofdesign View Post

    I have to ask 甘肃人.... are you just a sock of EmmaRoydes pulling our leg? Dywyddyr is a veteran member of this forum and you, being a newbie, are being incredibly disrespectful....practically mouthing off at him and resorting to name calling. That, and you and Emma both act/sound an awful a lot alike (albeit, if it is true, you are being more cunning and smarter about it with this sock.)

    I confess that your squabble with Dywyddyr eerily raised a red-flag with me as it is obnoxious and obtuse in a way unique to Emma's way of handling conflict. It was enough to make me wonder out loud. In fact, why are you even weighing in on this debate at all about moderators? Aren't you 'new' around here??

    Again, you sound an awful a lot like Emma pulling our leg.

    Here is an easy test: do you believe in the scientific method? (Emma's achilles heel, because she doesn't) I will make this test easy for you: there is data showing a consensus of 97%+ of climatologists supporting the conclusion that man-made climate change is ravaging the planet, would you respect that consensus as authoritative( since this is, broadly speaking, a statement of fact)? Asking so simple (and neutral) a question shouldn't be TOO much to ask of someone on a science forum since that is a no-brainer for any rational-minded person who accepts facts and reality. Only a "nutter" (like Emma) would have a problem agreeing with that statement. Curious to see how YOU choose to respond...Waiting.
    If you have an issue with another poster deal with it elsewhere. Personally, I highly doubt that 甘肃人is a sock puppet of that moron Emma. Emma didn't have the brain capacity to even string together coherent sentences. Also, pretty much everyone else has moved on from the Emma crap, unless she resurfaces again, let it go.
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    I was having a bad day and the drama in this thread rubbed me the wrong way. My bad. Maybe PTSD from previous drama....or this hangover from the previous night
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    Quote Originally Posted by scienceofdesign View Post
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    The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric.
    Ah, understood.
    You missed, completely ,what I said and assumed that I took it as attack on me.
    C'est la vie...

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.
    More evidence that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.
    Let me try again.
    UNLESS you know how Babe and I interact then taking one comment at face value doesn't give you the relevant context.
    And, like I said, since I pointed out that you posted in a thread (directly after me) where we had been discussing irony, that should have been a clue.
    You know: irony, saying something that has a meaning beyond (and usually opposite to) the face value of the words.
    Get an adult to explain it to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting.
    And another failure to understand on your part.
    No, I'm not calling Dan's post crap.
    It was an indication that the posts by the nutters (as Dan mentioned) I get "confrontational" about are themselves aggressive and arrogant. They are (however worded) an attack on rationality, science itself and clear thinking.

    I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    Of course you can't.
    But that's based on your lack of comprehension, among other things.
    All right I misread 'after' as ' at' in 'you recently posted directly after me in the "irony and sarcasm" thread' but let's wait to hear from Babe as to whether or not you offended her. I see what you mean about your danhanegan remarks (You: "What Danhanegan missed is that posting utter crap is itself confrontational.") But only because you've explained it clearly. Before it really looks like you mean dan himself.

    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
    I have to say, 甘肃人, you're being disruptive. Dywyddyr is a veteran member of this forum and you, being a newbie, are being incredibly disrespectful....practically mouthing off at him and resorting to name calling.

    Your squabble with Dywyddyr eerily is obnoxious and obtuse. In fact, why are you even weighing in on this debate at all about moderators? Aren't you 'new' around here?? I don't know anyone here well enough to opinine about this. IMHO it's a debate that should be left to long-standing members.
    First of all, I can't understand the placement or the context (hence 'use' of your word 'eerily' Is that a mistype? I will guess that it is since you also misspelled 'opine'. That's all fine though. Everybody makes mistakes - just checking.

    Second, your entire premise is that I am too new to have a right to 'opine', and yet you have only 20 post!? You joined in August and I joined in September. Well, so what? I do not want to dwell on my newness or yours because I think we all have the right to speak. I have done so because Dywyddyr is so perfectly unsuitable for the post. In our 'discussions' about this and other unrelated topics, I find that while he may be logical he is never the least bit sensitive or sociable. So while I can't often counter his arguments, I do now how he makes me feel, and I percieve how he makes others feel. Rationality and logic are not everything - NO, not even on a science forum.

    Finally, Here's something I haven't said. On the same day the elections were fist announced, before I knew about them, I was reading yet another barbed and rude reply of the ducks to someone or another (several people really, none of them me) and I was thinking I might have to put this troll (that is my honest impression of him) on my ignore list. Then I thought, perhaps a kinder course would be to PM him often. The man is obviously troubled and perhaps just need kind attention from a friend. I though of PMing so as to avoid publicly riling him up (which is so easy) and to eventually help him to fit in with polite society more. (I realize I sound sanctimonious and patronizing here, but this was my real plan to help the man) And then the elections were announced and Dywyddyr was soon being discussed as a front runner! I couldn't believe it! The worst troll on the site was to be moderator. I am new, as you pointed out, so I felt I had a choice. I could quietly walk away and look for some other forum where they don't elect the rudest, hidebound members as moderators, or I could tell people how I feel. The man is too emotional and too narrow in his views to be a moderator. Not wanting to be too hard on him as he is not in reality an enemy of mine, I will just say he is immoderate. In the past I have already been asked to quit expressing my views on this thread. I did so. Then some moderator asked that everyone use this thread solely for voting. That worked for a short time, but all was soon chaos. You and the duck played a small part in this. I rejoined the chatter on this thread when a conversation Dywyddyr and I were having on another thread spilled over onto this one. And now here you are 'calling me out'. Surely I have had a right to respond to your opinion of me, have I not? Now! I really will endeavor to contribute no more to this thread. Good luck to you Dywyddyr in the election. You know that you don't have my support.

    (ADDITION) Whoops! Only now (as I edited my spelling) did I see your accusations of sock puppetry. You are the one with 20 posts. Aren't you more likely to be the sock puppet? The mods can check this: I was actually harassed by Emma in his/her newer guise as PFTC or whatever. I got four PMs in one afternoon before 'it' was banned. I even publicly complained about it. In any case, it's pretty reprehensible to suggest someone is a sock puppet just because they disagree with you. AND - I never said anything about you saying that I 'practically mouthed off and was disrespectful'. 'Practically doing is not the same as doing, and why on earth would I be respectful to Dywyddyr. I think it was he who said posts and posts ago to me that respect must be earned. He certainly has never earned mine when as a newbie my first and persistent impression of him was as the site's troll. Enough said.
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    Even though a lot of what the flattened mouse has to say is correct I nominated Dywyddyr on the basis that he argues and is active on this site, so he will be here when we need a moderator to step in. He needs to learn how to moderate. The old Dywyddyr needs to become more moderate. He is starting to fall away in the vote count so maybe just the vote count will go against him.
    Maybe he can learn from Harold and Kalster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    First of all, I can't understand the placement or the context (hence 'use' of your word 'eerily' Is that a mistype? I will guess that it is since you also misspelled 'opine'. That's all fine though. Everybody makes mistakes - just checking.

    Second, your entire premise is that I am too new to have a right to 'opine', and yet you have only 20 post!? You joined in August and I joined in September. Well, so what? I do not want to dwell on my newness or yours because I think we all have the right to speak. I have done so because Dywyddyr is so perfectly unsuitable for the post. In our 'discussions' about this and other unrelated topics, I find that while he may be logical he is never the least bit sensitive or sociable. So while I can't often counter his arguments, I do now how he makes me feel, and I percieve how he makes others feel. Rationality and logic are not everything - NO, not even on a science forum.

    Finally, Here's something I haven't said. On the same day the elections were fist announced, before I knew about them, I was reading yet another barbed and rude reply of the ducks to someone or another (several people really, none of them me) and I was thinking I might have to put this troll (that is my honest impression of him) on my ignore list. Then I thought, perhaps a kinder course would be to PM him often. The man is obviously troubled and perhaps just need kind attention from a friend. I though of PMing so as to avoid publicly riling him up (which is so easy) and to eventually help him to fit in with polite society more. (I realize I sound sanctimonious and patronizing here, but this was my real plan to help the man) And then the elections were announced and Dywyddyr was soon being discussed as a front runner! I couldn't believe it! The worst troll on the site was to be moderator. I am new, as you pointed out, so I felt I had a choice. I could quietly walk away and look for some other forum where they don't elect the rudest, hidebound members as moderators, or I could tell people how I feel. The man is too emotional and too narrow in his views to be a moderator. Not wanting to be too hard on him as he is not in reality an enemy of mine, I will just say he is immoderate. In the past I have already been asked to quit expressing my views on this thread. I did so. Then some moderator asked that everyone use this thread solely for voting. That worked for a short time, but all was soon chaos. You and the duck played a small part in this. I rejoined the chatter on this thread when a conversation Dywyddyr and I were having on another thread spilled over onto this one. And now here you are 'calling me out'. Surely I have had a right to respond to your opinion of me, have I not? Now! I really will endeavor to contribute no more to this thread. Good luck to you Dywyddyr in the election. You know that you don't have my support.

    (ADDITION) Whoops! Only now (as I edited my spelling) did I see your accusations of sock puppetry. You are the one with 20 posts. Aren't you more likely to be the sock puppet? The mods can check this: I was actually harassed by Emma in his/her newer guise as PFTC or whatever. I got four PMs in one afternoon before 'it' was banned. I even publicly complained about it. In any case, it's pretty reprehensible to suggest someone is a sock puppet just because they disagree with you. AND - I never said anything about you saying that I 'practically mouthed off and was disrespectful'. 'Practically doing is not the same as doing, and why on earth would I be respectful to Dywyddyr. I think it was he who said posts and posts ago to me that respect must be earned. He certainly has never earned mine when as a newbie my first and persistent impression of him was as the site's troll. Enough said.
    Ummmmmm..... oooooookay?


    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    he is never the least bit sensitive or sociable.
    You erected that entire wall of passive-aggressive rage, a practical tsunami of self-conscious words in response to my words, and you are judging others as not "sociable"?

    lololololololololololololol


    Okay, you hold onto that kid.
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    Before this thread devolves further to what will essentially be monkeys flinging feces at each other....

    I am out. Goodluck to whoever becomes moderator but I am unsubscribing. I have no wish to participate in this petty squabble anymore.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.
    Nope.
    The error here is yours.
    Whether or not YOU failed to understand my irony is utterly irrelevant.
    It was directed at, and meant for, Babe.
    And I'm 99% certain that Babe took the remark as I intended.
    (One indication that she in fact did would be her response).

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
    Yeah, this from the guy who fails to understand irony, fails to appreciate (or understand or bother about) context and has, more than once, displayed hypocrisy.

    Sir Ducky and I have a lot of banter between the two of us which is all in good fun. I give him a bad time and he gives me one back. No offense is intended nor taken. Sir Ducky is correct.

    OK he bribed me to say this. Promised me all his feathers and the next batch too!
     

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    SO NOW that is clear.

    Let's get back on topic.

    What is the vote stand as of now, please.

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    SO NOW that is clear.

    Let's get back on topic.
    agreed - thank you
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    Just realized I have not actually voted as of yet, and this thread needs to be pulled back on course:

    Dywyddyr, C.E.S., and Scheherezade, all of which are solid posters and have a good broad view of things.
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    One thing that you (as moderators) will have to deal with is "Moderated Posts" which remain invisible to non-moderators until you deal with them explicitly. Moderated posts can occur if a new member posts with contained links etc. Sometimes this is a spam post. Sometimes a new member simply quotes another member whose post contains links. And sometimes because a new poster cannot see their moderated post, they post it again.
    We used to have a moderation queue, but that feature has been turned off. Too much spam to sort through. Now the links are just prohibited for new members.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scienceofdesign View Post
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    The only way you could take my comments as being aimed directly at you is if , well you were paranoid and egocentric.
    Ah, understood.
    You missed, completely ,what I said and assumed that I took it as attack on me.
    C'est la vie...

    All I need to see about your relationship with Babe in this thread is that you offended one of your staunch supporters. That's clear to me, but of course, unclear to you.
    More evidence that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.
    Let me try again.
    UNLESS you know how Babe and I interact then taking one comment at face value doesn't give you the relevant context.
    And, like I said, since I pointed out that you posted in a thread (directly after me) where we had been discussing irony, that should have been a clue.
    You know: irony, saying something that has a meaning beyond (and usually opposite to) the face value of the words.
    Get an adult to explain it to you.

    And now you are calling danhanegan's Post #318 on this thread utter crap when he simply describes the aggressive, arrogant and self-centered behavior you are now exhibiting.
    And another failure to understand on your part.
    No, I'm not calling Dan's post crap.
    It was an indication that the posts by the nutters (as Dan mentioned) I get "confrontational" about are themselves aggressive and arrogant. They are (however worded) an attack on rationality, science itself and clear thinking.

    I can't believe anyone would pick you, such as you are.
    Of course you can't.
    But that's based on your lack of comprehension, among other things.
    All right I misread 'after' as ' at' in 'you recently posted directly after me in the "irony and sarcasm" thread' but let's wait to hear from Babe as to whether or not you offended her. I see what you mean about your danhanegan remarks (You: "What Danhanegan missed is that posting utter crap is itself confrontational.") But only because you've explained it clearly. Before it really looks like you mean dan himself.

    Do not speak to me about whether I understand irony. There's no need to be inssulting. If you were being ironic with Babe or elsewhere you failed to get that across. The error is yours then, not mine.

    I still maintain that if every time you open your beak you have to spend the next eighteen and a half post explaining what you really meant, calling the rest of us names the whole while for not appreciating how 'clever' you are - you should not be a moderator.
    I have to say, 甘肃人, you're being disruptive. Dywyddyr is a veteran member of this forum and you, being a newbie, are being incredibly disrespectful....practically mouthing off at him and resorting to name calling.

    Your squabble with Dywyddyr eerily is obnoxious and obtuse. In fact, why are you even weighing in on this debate at all about moderators? Aren't you 'new' around here?? I don't know anyone here well enough to opinine about this. IMHO it's a debate that should be left to long-standing members.
    First of all, I can't understand the placement or the context (hence 'use' of your word 'eerily' Is that a mistype? I will guess that it is since you also misspelled 'opine'. That's all fine though. Everybody makes mistakes - just checking.

    Second, your entire premise is that I am too new to have a right to 'opine', and yet you have only 20 post!? You joined in August and I joined in September. Well, so what? I do not want to dwell on my newness or yours because I think we all have the right to speak. I have done so because Dywyddyr is so perfectly unsuitable for the post. In our 'discussions' about this and other unrelated topics, I find that while he may be logical he is never the least bit sensitive or sociable. So while I can't often counter his arguments, I do now how he makes me feel, and I percieve how he makes others feel. Rationality and logic are not everything - NO, not even on a science forum.

    Finally, Here's something I haven't said. On the same day the elections were fist announced, before I knew about them, I was reading yet another barbed and rude reply of the ducks to someone or another (several people really, none of them me) and I was thinking I might have to put this troll (that is my honest impression of him) on my ignore list. Then I thought, perhaps a kinder course would be to PM him often. The man is obviously troubled and perhaps just need kind attention from a friend. I though of PMing so as to avoid publicly riling him up (which is so easy) and to eventually help him to fit in with polite society more. (I realize I sound sanctimonious and patronizing here, but this was my real plan to help the man) And then the elections were announced and Dywyddyr was soon being discussed as a front runner! I couldn't believe it! The worst troll on the site was to be moderator. I am new, as you pointed out, so I felt I had a choice. I could quietly walk away and look for some other forum where they don't elect the rudest, hidebound members as moderators, or I could tell people how I feel. The man is too emotional and too narrow in his views to be a moderator. Not wanting to be too hard on him as he is not in reality an enemy of mine, I will just say he is immoderate. In the past I have already been asked to quit expressing my views on this thread. I did so. Then some moderator asked that everyone use this thread solely for voting. That worked for a short time, but all was soon chaos. You and the duck played a small part in this. I rejoined the chatter on this thread when a conversation Dywyddyr and I were having on another thread spilled over onto this one. And now here you are 'calling me out'. Surely I have had a right to respond to your opinion of me, have I not? Now! I really will endeavor to contribute no more to this thread. Good luck to you Dywyddyr in the election. You know that you don't have my support.

    (ADDITION) Whoops! Only now (as I edited my spelling) did I see your accusations of sock puppetry. You are the one with 20 posts. Aren't you more likely to be the sock puppet? The mods can check this: I was actually harassed by Emma in his/her newer guise as PFTC or whatever. I got four PMs in one afternoon before 'it' was banned. I even publicly complained about it. In any case, it's pretty reprehensible to suggest someone is a sock puppet just because they disagree with you. AND - I never said anything about you saying that I 'practically mouthed off and was disrespectful'. 'Practically doing is not the same as doing, and why on earth would I be respectful to Dywyddyr. I think it was he who said posts and posts ago to me that respect must be earned. He certainly has never earned mine when as a newbie my first and persistent impression of him was as the site's troll. Enough said.
    Ummmmmm..... oooooookay?


    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    he is never the least bit sensitive or sociable.
    You erected that entire wall of passive-aggressive rage, a practical tsunami of self-conscious words in response to my words, and you are judging others as not "sociable"?

    lololololololololololololol


    Okay, you hold onto that kid.
    Hate to break in again, but I am feeling defamed. This likely sock puppet science of design has answered none of my remarks and has resorted to slapping on labels. All I am trying to do is save this forum from a candidate for moderator who I feel very stronlgly is not at all suitable for the position. For this I am vilified and ridiculed!? Yeah, you elect him and you'll see how it goes. I will just quote member Raziell's signature and I'm done here: "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens No one is lying about Dywyddyr, but if the members elect him they are making a serious error in judgement. I can't believe that no one else sees this. You're all supposed to be smart.
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    The forum is not all peaches and cream. Have you even read some of the stuff that gets posted? I can't even be bothered to read most of the stuff people post.

    You already had one moderator resign. Who is to say some duck wouldn't make a good Trash collector? I think that is one thing that is actually needed.
     

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    I was wondering that if we could vote on the top two recipients of all the votes so that all who voted for the others could get the opportunity to get a final vote in for who they think is a better candidate.

    Just a suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    Hate to break in again, but I am feeling defamed. This likely sock puppet science of design has answered none of my remarks and has resorted to slapping on labels. All I am trying to do is save this forum from a candidate for moderator who I feel very stronlgly is not at all suitable for the position. For this I am vilified and ridiculed!? Yeah, you elect him and you'll see how it goes. I will just quote member Raziell's signature and I'm done here: "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens No one is lying about Dywyddyr, but if the members elect him they are making a serious error in judgement. I can't believe that no one else sees this. You're all supposed to be smart.
    Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

    Like "Emma", you keep promising to put a sock in it (pun not intended), saying you're "done" or that you've "said enough" and promising to drop it, only to break that promise and resume your trolling of Dydrrdyr and this forum a few days later as if you said nothing. You only have yourself to blame if people suspect you of being a bitter troll.

    Look, rat, I'm not interested in your soap opera drama which is why I'm not required to respond to your remarks which are little more than nonsense. Me defending Dywyddyr hardly makes me his "sock puppet." You've gone off the reservation.

    And the more you accuse Dywyddyr of being a troll, the more you sound (and act) like one. He's a veteran member of this forum. You are not. So remind me again who is the troll here? You are a new member of this forum and less than 2 weeks into your postings, out of the blue, you accused Dywyddyr of being a troll and called for him to be banned. And you've been attacking him ever since. You don't think that would appear a little odd to other long standing members of this forum? Does that sound like the behavior of a newbie?? Again, he is a longstanding, veteran member of this forum and respected by the consensus of users here. The fact that you even refuse to even take that into account in your narcissistic agenda against him rings something phony about you (others, it would seem, have noticed that as well).

    You claim YOUR beef with Dywyddyr is based upon a chance encounter you had with some of his postings, right? claiming that you were SO offended by what he had to say that in good conscience you have a duty to go out of your way to take him out of commission for the good of this forum. Oh, my! So altruistic of you! Uh, huh....I call bulls**t. Clearly you came here with an agenda....to hurt Dywyddyr and you are now making up excuses to cover your ass since your trolling has been exposed.

    You've had your say but you didn't have enough common sense to quit while you are behind. Now you are just being disruptive. Maybe you would've been more convincing had you NOT taken this too far and established your reputation better before you went on the attack. But you were anything but subtle. You are a troll. The first post you made against Dywyddyr was ridiculous: You voted AGAINST him?lololololol... Who does that? haha...And you are calling HIM a troll? bwhahahaha...No one is buying it, the least of all, you.

    Since, to quote you, you promised that you're "done here", hopefully you will KEEP your promise and let this thread go back on topic.

    Case in point: I vote for Dywyddyr for moderator.

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    Why dont you install a software to moderate this forum. Just joking. guys , be on topic. Scienceofdesign have you voted? please dont quote so large data.
    甘肃人 how to pronounce it? Why are you after Mr. Dywydyer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post

    Hate to break in again, but I am feeling defamed. This likely sock puppet science of design has answered none of my remarks and has resorted to slapping on labels. All I am trying to do is save this forum from a candidate for moderator who I feel very stronlgly is not at all suitable for the position. For this I am vilified and ridiculed!? Yeah, you elect him and you'll see how it goes. I will just quote member Raziell's signature and I'm done here: "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens No one is lying about Dywyddyr, but if the members elect him they are making a serious error in judgement. I can't believe that no one else sees this. You're all supposed to be smart.
    You have been wailing on the guy for days now. We get it. You don't like him. But people have the right to vote for the members they think will moderate and adhere to upholding scientific principles and not be biased. You appear to be the only person who has had such negative experiences with him. No one else has. As a result, you have been insulting, disruptive and rude, repeatedly.

    Enough is enough. You've had your say numerous times. Move on. Let the members, many of whom have been posting here for years and know all the members nominated and know what they want out of the moderators and what they have to offer, vote for who they want.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
    甘肃人 how to pronounce it? Why are you after Mr. Dywydyer?
    Yeah, if you're going to run a smear campaign, do it right. The greatest poster of all time is banned, mayflow, my sock. Now I have no one to vote for! Oh, yeah, I nominate mayflow And if not on the list, I'll run a smear campaign on, Dywydyer, starting with his name being hard to spell.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
    甘肃人 how to pronounce it?
    Gan su ren - A person from Gansu province in China.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
    Scienceofdesign have you voted?
    Yeah, I vote(d) for Dywyddyr for moderator.
     

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    Formal Apology: To all forum members. I regret that my resignation from role of moderator precipitated the search for new moderators and indirectly generated some of the "activity" on this thread. If I had realised this would be the result I would simply have faded into the distance. I have several further comments I could make, but they would require another apology, so I'll just wish whoever winds up with the job all the very best.
     

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    Don't drink so much malt, Galt.

    The forum would've been easier then.
     

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    no need for an apology - i had picked up on the unofficial moderator nomination thread and suggested to Harold that we make it an official one
    i did this prior to your promotion to ordinary forum member

    since i initiated the process i'm willing to see it through - the top 5 has not changed for some time now, and looks as follows :

    Cogito Ergo Sum - 18
    Dywyddyr - 18
    scheherazade - 17
    PhDemon - 12
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    Don't drink so much malt, Galt.

    The forum would've been easier then.
    Sod that!

    Would probably be easier if he had the cap with the drink holders on either side and two bottles strapped in there with a long straw.

    @ Mr Galt..

    You have no need to apologise. You haven't done anything wrong. You aren't responsible for how others behave.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR View Post
    Cogito Ergo Sum - 18
    Dywyddyr - 18
    scheherazade - 17
    PhDemon - 12
    Paleoichneum - 10
    I nominate scheherazade, PhDemon, and Paleoichneum.

    Should the admin/mod team decide to conduct another round of moderator selection in a similar fashion and in the future, may I suggest formalising a format that makes "accounting" easier for those tallying the results.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR View Post
    no need for an apology - i had picked up on the unofficial moderator nomination thread and suggested to Harold that we make it an official one
    i did this prior to your promotion to ordinary forum member

    since i initiated the process i'm willing to see it through - the top 5 has not changed for some time now, and looks as follows :

    Cogito Ergo Sum - 18
    Dywyddyr - 18
    scheherazade - 17
    PhDemon - 12
    Paleoichneum - 10
    All of those would do a wonderful job, I'm sure. It's hard to choose just 3, so I let a random algorithm do the work:

    Scheherazade
    Dywyddyr
    PhDemon

    Those are my nominations.
     

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    John, there is absolutely no reason for you to apologize. The drama here really has nothing at all to do with you and most likely would have happens anyways. You are much to valuable as a poster to loose you that way.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    2. Nominations will be closed in 2 weeks (end of the day on October 9).
    At what precise time and in which time zone?
     

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    2. Nominations will be closed in 2 weeks (end of the day on October 9).
    At what precise time and in which time zone?
    Good question. We'll make it 4:17 pm eastern daylight time, 2 weeks after the OP, on the dot.
     

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    i assume that's more or less 9.17pm UK time ? also, i assume you'll be doing the deed of closing the thread ?
    anyhow, if i don't make the final tally that evening, i'll publish it the next morning (if i forget, someone remind me)
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR View Post
    i assume that's more or less 9.17pm UK time ? also, i assume you'll be doing the deed of closing the thread ?
    anyhow, if i don't make the final tally that evening, i'll publish it the next morning (if i forget, someone remind me)
    If I'm not mistaken, the time stamp on the OP as it appears on your computer should be corrected for your time zone. On my computer, it was 4:17 pm.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR View Post
    i assume that's more or less 9.17pm UK time ? also, i assume you'll be doing the deed of closing the thread ?anyhow, if i don't make the final tally that evening, i'll publish it the next morning (if i forget, someone remind me)
    So that's the deadline? I vote for Dywyddyr.
     

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    Is there any requirement for those participating in this process to have a minimum period of tenure at this forum?

    As an aside, the time stamp of the OP on my computer was 2:17 p.m.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Is there any requirement for those participating in this process to have a minimum period of tenure at this forum?

    As an aside, the time stamp of the OP on my computer was 2:17 p.m.
    You would have set your posts to show your local time.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Is there any requirement for those participating in this process to have a minimum period of tenure at this forum?

    As an aside, the time stamp of the OP on my computer was 2:17 p.m.
    You would have set your posts to show your local time.
    Understood.

    It is now confirmed that the opportunity for nominations ends at exactly two weeks from the time stamp on one's computer. (Unless one has changed their settings for whatever reason since that time.)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Is there any requirement for those participating in this process to have a minimum period of tenure at this forum?
    No, but the election commission reserves the right to disqualify any votes deemed suspicious for any reason, or no reason. (I am the election commission.)
     

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    Sir John Galt....you have ZILTCH to apologize for.


    Scheherazade
    Dywyddyr
    PhDemon

    My final vote.
     

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    I also vote for Scheherazade and CES ( previous nomination of Dywyddyr has already been counted).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    No, but the election commission reserves the right to disqualify any votes deemed suspicious for any reason, or no reason. (I am the election commission.)
    I take it you are checking to see if certain members are socks or not? Because there is at least one that seems a tad suspect in this thread.

    One question I do have about this process is whether it will come down to numbers only, or if the administrators and the other moderators will have a final say over who they think will be the best fit from the top few who have received the most votes? I can see the benefit of this simply because you will all need to get along with the individual(s) and vice versa.
     

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    people let's make sure we don't start voting twice

    babe, you've already voted for scheherazade and PHDemon, so your only new vote is Dywyddyr
    Bob, you've already voted for Cogito Ergo Sum, so your only new vote is scheherazade

    for the time being i've counted Fauxnews' nomination as a valid vote, pending further developments, which brings the top 5 to

    Dywyddyr - 21
    scheherazade - 20
    Cogito Ergo Sum - 18
    PhDemon - 14
    Paleoichneum - 11
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR View Post
    people let's make sure we don't start voting twice

    babe, you've already voted for scheherazade and PHDemon, so your only new vote is Dywyddyr
    Bob, you've already voted for Cogito Ergo Sum, so your only new vote is scheherazade

    for the time being i've counted Fauxnews' nomination as a valid vote, pending further developments, which brings the top 5 to

    Dywyddyr - 21
    scheherazade - 20
    Cogito Ergo Sum - 18
    PhDemon - 14
    Paleoichneum - 11

    hanging head in shame.......

    I'm done voting......
     

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    My final
    Mr Dywydyyer (for his anti crank policy)
    Scherazade (for her friendly approach)
    strange (for his knowledge)
    PhDemon (for his attitude towards cranks and for his grip on chemistry topics)
    CES (for his research)

    and only two additions
    Paleoichneum. (He is a cool minded person. Never angered on me. always asked politely what I meant. He actually encouraged me to be more methodical poster. I have learned a lot from him actually. )

    tranquille ( After reading his posts in thread about ISIS.)
    I am done voting. Good luck all
     

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    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogersmith View Post
    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
    Haemorrhoid probable sock alert! This attempted vote should be discounted.

    (Reported, of course.)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rogersmith View Post
    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
    Haemorrhoid probable sock alert! This attempted vote should be discounted.

    (Reported, of course.)
    If you are implying it is me trying to bolster my own votes you are very wrong and in fact I'd be hurt if that is how low you think I'd go, but on reflection you are pointing the finger at Emma (suspended). But we must remember there are more people reading the threads than contributing to them (so a late registration is possible).
    Last edited by Robittybob1; October 7th, 2014 at 01:36 PM. Reason: (so a late registration is possible)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rogersmith View Post
    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
    Haemorrhoid probable sock alert! This attempted vote should be discounted.

    (Reported, of course.)
    If you are implying it is me trying to bolster my own votes you are very wrong and in fact I'd be hurt if that is how low you think I'd go, but on reflection to are pointing the finger at Emma (suspended). But we must remember there are more reading the threads than contributing to them.
    Then, er, a case of think-before-posting, perhaps?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rogersmith View Post
    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
    Haemorrhoid probable sock alert! This attempted vote should be discounted.

    (Reported, of course.)
    If you are implying it is me trying to bolster my own votes you are very wrong and in fact I'd be hurt if that is how low you think I'd go, but on reflection to are pointing the finger at Emma (suspended). But we must remember there are more reading the threads than contributing to them.
    Then, er, a case of think-before-posting, perhaps?
    obviously I would like it counted as a vote for robittybob1 in the absence of absolute proof it was a sockpuppet. So is that 5 votes so far for Robittybob?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    So is that 5 votes so far for Robittybob?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
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    So is that 5 votes so far for Robittybob?
    Long way to catch up but who knows!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rogersmith View Post
    I vote AGAINST Dywyddyr. If this place is fair and not run by children, then the fair thing to do is subtract one vote from the tally. Fair way to counter all the socks voting for him. Trolls shouldn't be promoted to moderators. Based upon my observations. Give my vote and nomination to Robittybob1.
    Haemorrhoid probable sock alert! This attempted vote should be discounted.

    (Reported, of course.)

    Even if we did not discount the vote, it would not have a significant effect on the top 5. We already know that members scheherazade and Dywyddyr will become the new moderators. Of course, a new account that immediately rants about this forum, is indeed suspicious (and I reported it).
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
     

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