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Whirlwindofsteel
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Writing a Quasi-Scientific Comic Book, Had Some Questions Reply with quote

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I am working on a comic book with superhumans (though I wouldn't call it superheroic). Anyways, the protagonist of the story essentially gets granted 'Superman's powers'. The levels of these powers are limited by the alien's tech and how much he trusts this guy with, but he agrees and gives him relatively Superman powers.
Being a fan of physics and, more importantly in fiction, consistency I wanted to get at least a basic understanding of 'if you could punch at Mach 5, what would you do to a brick wall?' The perpetual refusal of almost every comic book to even acknowledge things like air friction drives me nuts, and I intend to fix at least a little of that in my comic.
My mechanics questions are as follows:
1. Motor Skills: How fast could you move and still be able to control yourself with a human mind? Presume that his reflexes are at the level of top athletes, but and his nervous system (aside from his brain) is essentially light speed. This is more or less asking, "with a direct neural interface and good natural abilities, how fast could you control a humanoid robot?", since computers send information at near lightspeed anyway.
2. Macro-Speed: How fast would you have to be able to move to be essentially incoherent to the best human eye within close ranges? I want him to be able to zip up to people and punch them faster than their eye can follow, but I don't want him to move much beyond Mach 5, or he's going to be outrageously destructive to his enviroment.
3. Strength: His strength is entirely based on his muscle and acceleration. What I men that the tensing strength of his muscles is great enough to crush a diamond in his hand (with significant effort) but he can accelerate himself much faster. Thus his punches and throws will greatly exceed what he can lift. Three parts:
A. How much force PSI is required to crush a flawless 4 karat diamond over the period of, say, 45 seconds? How much PSI does a powerful (say, powerlifter) hand exert? By this means I can, roughly, work out the relative strength of his body for lifting, benchpressing etc.
B. How much energy is required to accelerate 10 tons to mach 1 in 1/100th of a second? This is pretty simple, but I can't remember the formula for it!
C. Having this kind of acceleration strength, he could obviously run pretty fast. But how much force can concrete stand up to before he just jams his leg through it and/or goes bounding off into the air?

4. Laser Vision: What sort of energy output would a high-band ultraviolet laser require in order to melt 4 tons of steel into complete slag in one second?

Once I can peg down some numbers for him, I can figure out what all the other characters can do by contrasting them with him, IE "Okay, it should take Ubermensch about 10 solid punches to kill this guy, so how much force can he stand up to?"

Anyone who can answer these questions, or tell me how to figure out the answers, thanks Smile.
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Harold14370
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This could be a fun topic. As far as your question 3.C is concerned, I think your hero will have a real problem if he is going to run in a conventional way.

Superman did not have to adhere to the laws of physics, so he could just take off flying, without pushing off of anything or leaving a trail of jet exhaust. Your "real" superhero has to get some traction to run, and his acceleration is limited by the coefficient of friction between his shoes and the road. The coefficient of friction is usually less than 1. If it was equal to 1 he could accelerate at 1 g, which is 32 feet per second per second. The best a drag racer can do in the quarter mile is about 11 seconds which works out to about 22 feet per second per second.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting topic...

Q1: The trouble is how fast is moved information along nerves. Now I am not certain at all, but I think it was about 20 m/s, which would allow for roughly 10 inpout/output processes per second in the longer nerves. Brain can be authomated to perform movements without input/output; a magician may perform a movement and hide the card in about 1/20th of a second. But it's a very trained one-shot nervous impulse, the brain never really confirms it's been performed until it asks for feedback.

So if the hero's brain ran as fast as light, his nervous system would still prevent him from doing more than, roughly, 10 to 15 voluntary moves per second.

Q2: well, it depends upon the range... we can perfectly spot airplanes moving at 300 m/s if they're 8 kilometers high, or a satellite at 11,000 m/s can be tracked without problems 100 kilometer away... in close cuarters, moving to the back of an enemy before he ever notices would require about 20 m/s. It takes a nice tenth of second to react to anything. Now he's here, one tenth of a second he leaped two meters around you to your back and you no longer see it... and can't tell WTF happened. Or even more he may just jump overhead of you. Then you will bsolutley have no clue; that's how magicians make things disappear from sight of a volunteer, just throw them above his head and his eyes can't track it... no Mach needed. Keep that "one tenth of a second" figure in mind; if you can't react, then it won't matter wether you see it coming or not... Wink

Q3a: Diamonds are easy to crush; they're relatively frangible. You could crush a 4 carats diamond with a little hammer. They're hard (resist friction), not tough (resist pressure). The problem doing it with a bare hand is that both skin and flesh are too elastic to properly press the stone, too.

Q3b: that's not doable. 360 m/s in 1/100th of a seconds it's about 3600 G; there's few things which could accelerate this way and stand in one piece. Such hit would plainly disintegrate anything taking it. Well, actually, if the object hitting it had a smaller surface than the target, the pressure would plainly allow the incoming object to ricochet through the target...

Q3c: running is not your best option to move fast. Ever saw astronauts leaping on the moon? That's becasue the energy they could apply to the ground was larger than what firction would allow... they just were overpowered in the slippery, low gravity surface of Moon. Too few friction. That's how the hero would feel if he just tried to accelerate as fast as his supermuscles allowed him on Earth. Leaping around would be the best way to move real fast.

Will take on Q4 later, now I'ts late and I'm going to sleep... Wink Must check specific heat of steel, melting point and try to don't get confused with the conversion between calories, joules and watts... Laughing
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Q4: I just found a useful piece of info... the energy required to melt Iron is 0.384 Kw/kg; I guess steel won't drift too far from this.

So if it's 0.384 Kw/kg and you plan to melt 4,000 kg, then you will need 4,000 x 0.384= 1,536 Kw= 1.536 Megawatt to melt 4 tons of steel in one second. Wink

That, as output. Ultraviolet lasers are CO2 based and their efficency is around 10% so this means it would require 15 MW of power input to produce an output of 1.5 MW. Anyway the most powerful industrial lasers are CO (carbon monoxide) based, and they are around the 500 KW (0.5 MW) range but need extensive cooling.
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