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| charles brough |
 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: When did Greek-Roman society end and Christendom begin? |
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The usual explanation is "the Fall of Rome," but that makes no sense and is arbitrary. It is convenient for the status quo in social science theory, however. It enables them to say "it shows societies are not religious-bonded entities because the Greek-Roman society survived changing from the pagan faith to the Christian one and continued until the fall of Rome some 500 years later."
No it did not! When Christianity became the majority faith and adopted by the ruling elite, the old Greek-Roman society ended and Christian or Western society began. The turning point came in about 350 A.D. From then on, the society changed drastically and that change never stopped.
What confuses the picture is that during the Western Renaissence, our civilization copied a lot of the Greek-Roman culture. But all civilizations borrow and steal from each other.
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I think it's very difficult to get a clear picture of what really defined greco-roman and christian society. Do they really exclude eachother?
For example, could you describe a few defining traits of greco-roman society which definitally disappeared around 350 AD?
So far it seemed to me the decline of greco-roman society was more a gradual one, starting well before 350 AD and ending centuries after that year. Maybe greco-roman and christian society co-existed during this period, or maybe they gradually fused together. But you can still convince me otherwise, I'm not your steriotypical social scientist who sticks to an explanation because it's convenient (if such a person actually exists is another question)  |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I love my history and from what I can see ...
Rome much like any other great civilization fell in the same manner as the rest... Over time.
Roman hasn't really fallin it has more like evolved and changed names. The concepts of both Greek and Roman Govts was and is Democracy. So as long as Democracy survives so have Rome and it's way.
I'll talke for granted you know the story of how Emperor Constantine Converted the public faith of Rome from "Pagan" to Christian. As the pollitical powers of Rome developed so did wealth and power. The Rothchilds have actually had an unbelievable amounts of political control since 600 AD striaght thru now in modern 2007. The Greco-Roman era hasn't really ended just been blended into the world society that has been being created since that time when Democracy came about. Notice how the mottos on currency are in LATIN.
Nothing is an accident. Society needs control, but it's to bad the control comes from the power of milenia worth of the same greedy blood lines. Yup they lie, steel, and control your freedom. Rome hasn't fallin it's just moved across the ocean. The U.S. is very much in a state of decadence and greed like that of the Roman era you question. All great civilizations are the same run by the same people and blood lines that have been around for thousands of years. With pretty much the same methods of control, Democracy, failed socialism, failed communisim, and well hidden fascisim. Greco Rome didn't dissapear it's only evolved and changed names and locations over the years.
Maybeeeee I'm mistaken, but seems pretty clear to me!
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