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| Tony-Santara |
 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: Was it better when we had wars with swords? |
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I was thinking.  Was it better when we fought with swords and spears and battle were over in a day or a week and only the soldiers died not citizens or now when wars take years and millions die soldiers or citizens. Your opinion please. 
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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You have not yet lived through a war, and I really hope you never do, but those of us who have see no difference between the sword and the bullet.
THe development of weapons technology increased the numbers of people killed, mained etc in wars and these numbers peaked in the 20th century, nuclear weapons became a deterrent against wars (so they say) and perhaps in future wars will be more 'surgical' ie aimed at taking out the head only.
Nw to your question, "What is better"
Was what better?
The number of casualties?
Your chance of surviving a war?
Living standards before and after?
The 'best' way of killing? |
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| Tony-Santara |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: Answer |
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I have lved though a war and are still living though t right now. The Iraq war and i really ment war as a whole when i meant twhat was better? I mean would you rather beon the battle field today or 500-600 years ago?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Ok I think it was better with a sword, only becuase your attacker had to come close enough so that you could fight him. With a gun, you never know who is about to kill you as they could be a mile away, same with missiles, rockets etc. |
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| Minxy |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I agree
Killing someone close up is far better because it's personal because you know there's another real person under the sword.
In that way there is a conscious involved.
Nowadays the enemy is a faceless bundle somewhere on a map and war has become statistics.
To exclude the conscious from the act of killing is barbaric and should have no honour in it whatsoever.
There is then no chance of empathy or understanding and no possibility of a peaceful resolve.
Do you mean warfare using chemicals and low frequencies MB? |
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| Minxy |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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And Tony Santara
Get on with you're homework!
You are now banned from the computer. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Minxy wrote: |
Do you mean warfare using chemicals and low frequencies MB? |
Only against bugs |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Was it better when we had wars with swords? |
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| Tony-Santara wrote: |
| I was thinking. Was it better when we fought with swords and spears and battle were over in a day or a week and only the soldiers died not citizens or now when wars take years and millions die soldiers or citizens. Your opinion please. |
It is inevitable the weapons of war and the strategies would evolve.
The idea is to inflict the most amount of damage while minimizing your own fatalities. If your opponent is more skilled with swords, you'll want to find a way to fight him without having to submit to swordplay, as this would mean defeat for your army. So, you develop ways to kill your opponent without having to submit to their superior fighting methods. Firing arrows from a distance would achieve that goal, for example, as is firing missiles from miles away. |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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No its not better, I don't even think 'better' is the appropriate word. A sword can cut your limbs of and leave you in agony A LOT of agony, and then again a bullet can slowly and VERY painfully kill you. And then theres explosives and they are just even worse. Its a bad thing all told.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I would like to see the rules of battle to come back, with some additions. Each side takes 100 men or so and fight on a field with whatever they choose. Then the battle would take a day at most and at most 199 people would be killed. But this is unfortunately as wild an idea as Bush and Bin Laden playing a game of chess (Bush would loose).
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| Minxy |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone country that uses such things as chemical warfare like they did in Vietnam or scatter bombs like they did in Iraq are cowards and the lowest form of humans and have no right to call themselves civilized. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| That's mostly the UK and the US (both use cluster bombs) I worked at one point for a defence company, but resigned when they wanted me to work on offensive weapons! |
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| Minxy |
| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Megabrain wrote: |
| That's mostly the UK and the US (both use cluster bombs) I worked at one point for a defence company, but resigned when they wanted me to work on offensive weapons! |
I'm ashamed to be British or be part of a country that associates with America, and before the Americans jump down my throat. I have nothing against the American people or the British.
I think it's high time people/us started taking some of the power to make the decisions back.
And the laughable thing is that the excuse they use is one of spreading democracy when this 'concept' or catchphrase isn't even put into practice in America or Britain.
If it was Britain would never have sent troops to Iraq and Bush wouldn't be in Presidency. |
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| dejawolf |
| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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well, with sword and shield, fighting insurgencies in urban areas is a lot cleaner, fewer civilian casualties and all that.
but the battlefield isn't much different at all.
you shoot at people until they die or surrender.
not much different from hacking people up until they die or flee.
back in the days, victorious armies had a habit of pillaging all valuables from
the peasants, raping the women, and burning down the villages.
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| Tony-Santara |
| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| dejawolf wrote: |
back in the days, victorious armies had a habit of pillaging all valuables from
the peasants, raping the women, and burning down the villages. |
Yes but they also had a habit of living in the town/city they had pillaged and that means they would be friendsly with the locals and if the town is thiers why would they pillage their own town? It just sounds unusual. Just my opinon
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