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| BloodyValentine |
 Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| BloodyValentine wrote: |
| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
There is no such thing.
It started at high tech defense plants. As technology fell in and out of favor. Terms like "its back to the future", or "now its time to turn our backs to the future". Were just sad comedy.
This was built at a well known defense plant. Frankly they had to much time on their hands. Because there were just to few individuals that could face and talk about reality.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| BloodyValentine wrote: |
| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Accelerate away from the earth to near light speeds, stop, turn around and accelerate back, stop. You've just time traveled into the earth's future.
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Oh, and, uh, sorry, you can't make the return trip, it's only one way. 
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| BloodyValentine wrote: |
| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Accelerate away from the earth to near light speeds, stop, turn around and accelerate back, stop. You've just time traveled into the earth's future. |
I am taking it that you are being facetious, and you do not believe in time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs.
I am sure it is not possible.
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| KALSTER |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
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| BloodyValentine wrote: |
| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Accelerate away from the earth to near light speeds, stop, turn around and accelerate back, stop. You've just time traveled into the earth's future. |
I am taking it that you are being facetious, and you do not believe in time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs. |
It is a consequence of well established and experimentaly verified relativity theory by Einstein and is NOT "time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs" for goodness sake.
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Well i have recently viewed a video on youtube that shows that time travel could be possible, it could be a camera trick but i really doubt it. Its two people from Georges Science Club Uk (or they claim to be). Ive hared of that before and its a really big organisation in England there main focus is on physics. Ive seen one of there astronomy projects before and they pin pointed a star called Argon which only comes visual to earth once every 4500 years, i would really take these guys serious.
Heres the linkanyway, tell me what you think about it guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoIHBnmahB4 |
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| KALSTER |
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| it could be a camera trick but i really doubt it. |
Well, I don't.
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
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| BloodyValentine wrote: |
| Can anyone summarize the theory on how exactly time travel can be achieved? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Accelerate away from the earth to near light speeds, stop, turn around and accelerate back, stop. You've just time traveled into the earth's future. |
I am taking it that you are being facetious, and you do not believe in time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs. |
It is a consequence of well established and experimentaly verified relativity theory by Einstein and is NOT "time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs" for goodness sake. |
No verified time relativity experiment has ever been done to show that time, is altered by your velocity.
I would take a look at that quote by Carl Sagan, you might be risking your or someone else's life if Carl is right.
Relativity is another one that, that many scientists miss, it just means that things are what they are, relative to other things. There speed their density, relies on other things, and their speed and density.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
I am taking it that you are being facetious, and you do not believe in time travel as is sold and packaged by space programs. |
I am taking it that you are being belligerent, simply based on the fact you don't know what you're talking about.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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No verified time relativity experiment has ever been done to show that time, is altered by your velocity. |
You should visit a particle accelerator some day.
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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No verified time relativity experiment has ever been done to show that time, is altered by your velocity. |
You should visit a particle accelerator some day. |
I do know what I am talking about, the accelerators at the time, were known to be big money scams. We knew all they were trying to disprove, was real already, with real things having already been built.
I did some work on the grounds at Brookhaven labs in the eighties, I did not even wish to be there, near such poor scientists, wielding high powered junk they do not understand. I could have gone in and looked at the reactor. But why would I. There is nothing there at all that a decent, amature scientist would want to see.
We could talk to individuals who were highly decorated scientists and tell them what we were doing, and they would say impossible. Meanwhile we were doing those things. They are still stuck in some other dimension, trying to disprove reality. Or they would be too stupid to live.
That is my bottom line. I have had professors come right out and say angrily, well if that was true it would be to ridiculous for me to even fathom. But they still want the high paying job and the prestige.
We did not need particle accelerators to show anything. We could have done anything they did with other simple means, and for pennies. But then all those do nothing welfare jobs would be gone.
The fact they built all that garbage is the proof they do not understand how things really work. Real scientists live in a world where the only question they have is what do you want to do? We are ready to do anything and go anywhere.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Time travel in a nutshell |
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I do know what I am talking about...
Real scientists live in a world where the only question they have is what do you want to do? We are ready to do anything and go anywhere. |
Thanks Bill, the depth and breadth of your intellect are staggering, a monument to critical thinking. I could only hope to dream that one day I too may accomplish anywhere near your vast achievements, despite those nasty highly decorated scientists. Give em' hell, Bill!
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i think Q is correct on this one... light speed isnt possible but travelling at 99.999999% of it is (given you have unimaginable amounts of energy), time is relative to the speed of a body. Light does not experience time, therefore if you did have the ability to travel at the speed of light for 10,000 years... you would not age, but yes, you would arrive 10,000 years ahead of where you left from.
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"During October, 1971, four cesium atomic beam clocks were flown on regularly scheduled commercial jet flights around the world twice, once eastward and once westward, to test Einstein's theory of relativity with macroscopic clocks. From the actual flight paths of each trip, the theory predicted that the flying clocks, compared with reference clocks at the U.S. Naval Observatory, should have lost 40+/-23 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and should have gained 275+/-21 nanoseconds during the westward trip ... Relative to the atomic time scale of the U.S. Naval Observatory, the flying clocks lost 59+/-10 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and gained 273+/-7 nanosecond during the westward trip, where the errors are the corresponding standard deviations. These results provide an unambiguous empirical resolution of the famous clock "paradox" with macroscopic clocks."
J.C. Hafele and R. E. Keating, Science 177, 166 (1972) |
Yes there isnt much difference, and you could argue the equipment be flawed but the chances of the predictions of the "errors" being correct using a perfectly valid theory proves that travelling into the future, exploiting natural time dialation is VERY possible, just not with our current space technology. try again in a few hundered thousand years |
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| William McCormick |
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| Alc wrote: |
i think Q is correct on this one... light speed isnt possible but travelling at 99.999999% of it is (given you have unimaginable amounts of energy), time is relative to the speed of a body. Light does not experience time, therefore if you did have the ability to travel at the speed of light for 10,000 years... you would not age, but yes, you would arrive 10,000 years ahead of where you left from.
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"During October, 1971, four cesium atomic beam clocks were flown on regularly scheduled commercial jet flights around the world twice, once eastward and once westward, to test Einstein's theory of relativity with macroscopic clocks. From the actual flight paths of each trip, the theory predicted that the flying clocks, compared with reference clocks at the U.S. Naval Observatory, should have lost 40+/-23 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and should have gained 275+/-21 nanoseconds during the westward trip ... Relative to the atomic time scale of the U.S. Naval Observatory, the flying clocks lost 59+/-10 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and gained 273+/-7 nanosecond during the westward trip, where the errors are the corresponding standard deviations. These results provide an unambiguous empirical resolution of the famous clock "paradox" with macroscopic clocks."
J.C. Hafele and R. E. Keating, Science 177, 166 (1972) |
Yes there isnt much difference, and you could argue the equipment be flawed but the chances of the predictions of the "errors" being correct using a perfectly valid theory proves that travelling into the future, exploiting natural time dialation is VERY possible, just not with our current space technology. try again in a few hundered thousand years |
Time was not lost or gained. The clocks are powered by ambient radiation. And if you put them in a poorly built commercial plane, or even a poorly built military plane. Surly you will see a difference if you are moving the clock at different velocities.
Because the clocks are being struck with different speed ambient radiation. Through an improperly built ship and clock.
This was predicted, before they went off and started to believe in time travel. Or riffs in time, as they once put it.
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