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| verzen |
 Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: The religious politics |
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According to a fairly recent poll made, roughly around 90% of the United States population would not vote for an athiest president. Many people who represent this 90% say that they can not vote someone in who does not share their ethical views. From this poll, to me, many people think athiests are evil or have no ethical values based on why they would not vote an athiest into office.
The way I have seen things, as a fellow athiest, people who have a high religious agenda, such as Huckabee, quite literally scare me. Those who have blind faith and obedience to something without any proof lay no proof in their "creationism." However, when one brings religious faith into politics, they are deciding things based on a simple story that can be associated with being a myth. (Which is why christianity is a mythology)
Their political agenda is based off of a myth and is not based off of the betterment of society.
Bush severely limited stem cell research based on his religious beliefs. The church is saying that the new stem cell research is heresy of frankenstein proportion. (They are injecting human DNA into an animals embryo, making it 99.99% human just to create the stem cell, so we don't need human eggs)
Basing on religious belief, religion is holding us, as a society, back from scientific research. Stem Cell's could eventually lead to curing various diseases within the world, but the church does not think the end justifies the means.
How I am interpreting this, is that the church itself is against healing people with diseases.
Does anybody else agree that the church should be holding back scientific belief based on ethical boundaries, even though the end does justify the means? |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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verzen, as much as I love you back, post in another area other than religion, people think you have an unhealthy fixation with religion.
You know after reading your post, I've learned something, that you are weak and lost. Good news is I know that now and you can be helped, bad news is I have to do it, again.
The Brits have politics and no one cares about religion when it comes to politics. Look at Tony Blair, he was Roman Catholic, and no one made a fuss about that when he came ot power. Its just you yanks, your too opinionated, too angry and too misunderstood that you make things irrational and appear irrational. Who cares if your next president is religious? If hes a good leader and a good politician, then he won't allow for religion to influence the nation will he? He won't let religion come into it as he is the leader of a country.
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: Re: The religious politics |
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| verzen wrote: |
| According to a fairly recent poll made, roughly around 90% of the United States population would not vote for an athiest president. |
That's one of the things I don't understand about the US, but luckily it's not an issue where I live  |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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I think that issue resides IN the USA and only there. Lucky old Europe  .
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| qwertyman |
| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
The Brits have politics and no one cares about religion when it comes to politics. |
you have just raised something I have been thinking about for a while now. Britain is amazingly racist (before you say I am stereotyping, I am British I live in Britain and have done all my life)
sadly a large number of people I know are racist towards nearly every other country, even to people in diferent parts of England.
but for some reason when it comes to politics their racim disapears, I am completely confused by this. I sometimes think that they are racist because they think its 'cool', but when it comes down to it they dont actualy hold these beleafs.
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| sunshinewarrior |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| qwertyman wrote: |
| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
The Brits have politics and no one cares about religion when it comes to politics. |
you have just raised something I have been thinking about for a while now. Britain is amazingly racist (before you say I am stereotyping, I am British I live in Britain and have done all my life)
sadly a large number of people I know are racist towards nearly every other country, even to people in diferent parts of England.
but for some reason when it comes to politics their racim disapears, I am completely confused by this. I sometimes think that they are racist because they think its 'cool', but when it comes down to it they dont actualy hold these beleafs. |
Strange to say, I think my experience is similar to yours - whilst all sorts of people display prejudice (and I'm a Londoner so I too am experienced), they seem to drop these when it comes to politics, or even voting for politicians (even the BNP, I think, doesn't care about the background of their candidates as long as they're racist  ). I can only attribute it to most Brits not thinking politics is important enough to bring their prejudices to it.
Anybody else voting for Mayor of London come May? |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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| qwertyman wrote: |
| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
The Brits have politics and no one cares about religion when it comes to politics. |
you have just raised something I have been thinking about for a while now. Britain is amazingly racist (before you say I am stereotyping, I am British I live in Britain and have done all my life)
sadly a large number of people I know are racist towards nearly every other country, even to people in diferent parts of England.
but for some reason when it comes to politics their racim disapears, I am completely confused by this. I sometimes think that they are racist because they think its 'cool', but when it comes down to it they dont actualy hold these beleafs. |
I'm not racist, therefore the whole of Britain is not racist. Americans seem to have a very good habit of being racist themselves from my experience. There are always going to be racist people for quite a while. If it hurts someone I'll stand up for that person being hurt, otherwise I don't give a flying sh!t. Its none of my frigging business, a lot of you people need to learn that. Jesus said that to one of his disciples, more or less, that:
"Its none of your business". So I'm going to do it 
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