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| Jozen-Bo |
 Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: The Mind Portal...converted into a mathematics graph |
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Hello!
I would like to explore the possibilities of using this as a mathematical grid! I am aware that curved math graphs do exist, but I am not convinced that they have been fully explored so I am presenting this to see what happens. I will provide 3 pictures, first of an empty graph, then one of a graph with some measurements in it, then a graph that has had its modulation changed. I will then wait and see how others help to steer and direct this thread, while making sure that its focus remains on the mathematics! Thanks!
By jozenbo at 2008-01-22
This is a Mind Portal calendar that can also be used as an empty graph with a 13 x 28 modulation base to do mathematics on!
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By jozenbo at 2008-03-27
This graph has been divided into three parts. One half shows possible new ways of looking at and taking measurements, the other two quarters show a rise and fall formula as a repeating function that changes with the graph's curve, and a parabola that is also a repeating function that changes with the curve. The formulas that go into making these patterns in my opinion might be worth investigating.
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By jozenbo at 2008-03-27
Here the graph's modulation has been changed to that of 10 x 10, which could be useful for observing and analyzing different types of information graphically.
So this is some food for thought, I am curious to find out what others might think, what ideas they might have, or if anyone here can think of a way to develop this further, or see a practical application for using such a graph. I will await your replies!
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Jozen-Bo
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Any questions, ideas, or valuable comments?
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Hi, you mentioned before that this is a tool for analysing the human mind, so how do the patterns/symbols on the graph relate to that?
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| Hi, you mentioned before that this is a tool for analysing the human mind, so how do the patterns/symbols on the graph relate to that? |
The symbols and patterns represent actions, moods, and events that occur in one's life. Humans are habitual creatures and often repeat doing the same things over and over again. These habits are formed and controlled by the mind, which tells the body what to do and where to go. By seeing this pattern, it relays information about how the Mind is operating and which habits are currently active. Then, with that information on this tool we have a platform for conveniently seeing the overall pattern generated without resorting to changing pages. The spiral is optimal for placing the largest amount of information into the smallest amount of flat-space area for the same reason the DNA is curved into a spiral, if it were straight or knotted how could 3 meters (if that is correct) of string possibly fit into such a small area?
Also, how can we possibly gather any information about the processes of the mind if we don't look into the dynamics of the mind over a period of time. In order to understand it better one will need to see how it changes over time. If we take a frozen model of the brain, we can gather very little information about how the mind works from this. The Mind Portal does not show how the mind works, but it does show what is has done through time, thereby providing useful information for analyzing how the mind works.
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Seen as you posted this in the maths forum, it would seem you are trying to quantify the behaviour of the brain. You also have numbers and diagrammatic representations on your chart, so what do they represent?
I think as someone else said, you need to explain the the 'how', and not the 'why'.
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aye, aye!
it all seems too complicated;
how can one measure me mind with a simple circular sketch(well, not-so-simple sketch to the exact) and geometrical figures?!   |
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| im intruiged. but can you explain how someone can convert information into symbols and patterns. |
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| bit4bit wrote: |
Seen as you posted this in the maths forum, it would seem you are trying to quantify the behaviour of the brain. You also have numbers and diagrammatic representations on your chart, so what do they represent?
I think as someone else said, you need to explain the the 'how', and not the 'why'. |
Some people want to know the why, others the how. One question leads to another. The mathematics graph I present can be used to observe patterns of many different things that occur in nature, it is not limited to the mind alone. Here, I am searching for a new way to look at mathematical formulas as they can be put on an X and Y axis. I suspect that starting with the basics, what we already know, and placing these into the graph may reveal things we don't know. Without keeping an open mind, nothing at all can be found.
The numbers and diagrammatic representations on the right side represent well known functions in mathematics. Parabolas and Rise/Fall functions are shown. These could represent a number of different things, just as both parabolas and rise/fall functions are often depicted to represent many different things. The grid on the left is much more abstract, I put it together to explore the possibilities that perhaps there are nonlinear functions to be found within linear functions, hidden but there. It has yet to be explored to the point that anyone can say it is worth anything or not. I wish I had more time, I would do it myself if I did. I was hoping that someone else might take the queue. It might win you an award if you can find and prove the value of this...
I might remind that the Theory of Relativity was based on curved graphs, yet we know so little about the modulation potentials of mathematics, we simply rely on the base of 10, who learns Binary mathematics as a normal means to do math? What if the modulation was 5, or 15? Would anything change about the procedures? Would new possibilities arise for making certain problems easier to solve?
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| Hanuka wrote: |
aye, aye!
it all seems too complicated;
how can one measure me mind with a simple circular sketch(well, not-so-simple sketch to the exact) and geometrical figures?! |
We cannot advance in our knowledge if we do not challenge the complexities that are the products of what may be simple initial standards. As to how one can measure the mind, it is very simple, your mind tells you to do this or that. You write this into the time map, over time it reveals the patterns of your doing this or that. It isn't merely measuring the mind, its measuring the patterns that are produced by the activities of the mind. If we are wise, we can put our knowledge to work for us, otherwise the knowledge can serve no purpose. This is one of the big differences between raw intelligence and wisdom. The more you know about yourself, the better armed you are to change yourself for the better.
You cannot possibly measure the mind without regarding how it functions in time. To take a static diagram is to delude oneself of the dynamic reality that is the nature of the mind. We think through time, our thoughts building in successions, chains, and links. We cannot possibly see it in an instant and understand the complexity of it as it is truly.
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| SwerveMcNerve wrote: |
| im intruiged. but can you explain how someone can convert information into symbols and patterns. |
The same way we did with letters and numbers. We made it up! Given time, our system refined itself into what it is today. As symbols merge, we find that this is like letters combining to form words. A star in a circle means something else then a square in a circle. We define that, and if our aim is careful, we may find a way to build a written language that is pure geometrics. Perhaps it could even be such that there is a universal written language that is rooted in geometrics. Time will tell.
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