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| angrysoba |
 Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: Star Wars anyone? |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6278867.stm
The Chinese have blasted one of their own sattelites and apparently did so by knocking it to pieces using a direct hit. This seems to me to be a remarkably accurate weapon as it destroyed the sattelite by its own momentum alone.
Any thoughts about where all this is going to lead? |
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| captaincaveman |
| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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well the concerns from the US are that intentional attack of their spy satellites could be catastrophic for the army, navy and airforce as they are totally dependant on it to work
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, funny how the yanks don't like anyone else to have similar weapons to them, but let's hope it does not produce another stupid 'arms race' |
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| leohopkins |
| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: i'd disagree |
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I would disagree, arms races and wars between developed and countries are what the world needs. It pushes the evolution of technology onward and forward more quickly.
New technologies are always used in war before they are used in peace.
As long as no-one is stuipid enough to push the nuke button or use biological weapons, then im all for a good war, just as long as its a fair match. bombing the crap out of Afghanistan and Iraq - easy!
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got news for you, it does not. It's a myth. |
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| angrysoba |
| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Re: i'd disagree |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
As long as no-one is stuipid enough to push the nuke button or use biological weapons, then im all for a good war, just as long as its a fair match. bombing the crap out of Afghanistan and Iraq - easy! |
Of course, the problem with two sides going at it which are a "fair match" means that ultimately some nutjob has to push a button or two. There's a very appropriate term for it known as MAD!
No war that is going to push the boundaries of technology that is at the same time a "fair match" will do anyone any good in the end because anyone who ups the ante will be replacing a weapons system that can destroy us all ten times over with one that can destroy us eleven, twelve, or maybe twenty times over. Which would be a phyrric victory for science to say the least. |
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| charles brough |
| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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There is another factor in all this that has not been noticed here. The world is growing more divided. After the collapse of the Soviet Marxist system, the world was pretty well united by our secular belief system into a World Community of Nations under the UN and other world organizations. That is slowly breaking down now and people like Pres. Bush and like the leaders of the various terrorist organizations are all pushing religion and proving that our secular system does NOT work.
To take and stablize Afghanistan and Iraq, we needed from 200,000 to 400,000 troops and a hundred billion quick for fast rebuilding of the two countries. Instead, the war was deliberately planned and managed so that both nations would deteriorate into anarchy as they have done. This deliberate religious policy sews despair and loss of faith in our secular-democatic system and, thus, turns people to religion. It is a deliberate policy that has been working well for decades between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
With the US, the result is Afghanistan became a narco-nation with the Taliban coming back and Iraq degenerated into civil war. “Democracy” in the eyes of the world, cannot spread and succeed---even when forcefully imposed on a people! “Give up science and all that secularism; go back to Christ” they are saying, and people see what has happened and are listening. The point is coming where everyone will have to take sides, religious sides. The world is dividing and there will be no room left in the middle.
In short, old religion is becoming triumphant and the world is gradually becoming more and more divided along religious lines. It would be quite logical for the leadership to next work to achieve “The End Times” so that God-Allah-Yahweh can bring us “His Kindom On Earth.” The religious fanatics are quite logical about their religions. They believe them and are willing to exterminate us all in the process of “achieving God's Plan.” It is to them the only way to save humanity from its "evil" ways.
Sooner or later those of us who know science and the real world had all better stop this trend or we, or our children, will all be buried under radioactive atomic dust.
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| digiplaya |
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Indeed. While I am certainly not a political/social expert, there IS this culmination of events (happening in the world) leading up to a certain "high point" in not only technology, but in standards of ethics, and so on!
But where does the future lie, as far as humanity? That we cannot know yet.
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| Red |
| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Re: i'd disagree |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
| I would disagree, arms races and wars between developed and countries are what the world needs. It pushes the evolution of technology onward and forward more quickly. |
Oh yeah because I'm sure that the millions of deaths in both world wars were worth it. What did we gain? Nuclear power which no country is willing to use widespread after chernobyl, new techniques to heal bullet wounds in a world which is now saturated in the automatic hand held weaponanry which was developed in ww2.What else? Nothing. All those nasties you mentioned were a direct result of weapons development in ww2 such as weapons grade anthrax and smallpox which is nicely comming back around to hound us. WW2 created the same power inbalance which causes conflcit up to this very day. For someone to even make this claim shows how little you see of the wider picture. War is terrible but is sometimes necassary. Dont get me wrong I'm not anti-war. I believe that war is sadly an intrinsic and unavoidable part of the human condition and is sometimes required for the greater good but I definetely would not say any such thing as the WW1 generals did like "It'l lower the population" or "It'll go the country good" because even with the total number of advancements undoubtabley made noone wins when these are paid for in blood and to claim they do is disrespectful to all those who died for a greater cause. |
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| leohopkins |
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| Megabrain wrote: |
| I've got news for you, it does not. It's a myth. |
In a capitalist society such as ours then you are right, its the consumer market which drives innovation. In a communist society technological evolution is only driven by war.
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| Scifor Refugee |
| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| captaincaveman wrote: |
| well the concerns from the US are that intentional attack of their spy satellites could be catastrophic for the army, navy and airforce as they are totally dependant on it to work |
More and more the US has been using small, unmanned drones for keeping an eye on people. The idea is that they're cheap enough that even if they get shot down, no one will care - especially since they don't have pilots. |
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