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| jacketate |
 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: School uniform |
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What do people think of school uniforms?
having one stops a students freedom of expression,and freedom is the souls right to breath.
but then again it can instill a community atmosphere and makes it harder for any weirdos to walk off with you.
It also stops the inevitable competition, with rich kids laughing at poor kids.
any other benefits or problems you guys can think of.
I'm interested in your ideas
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| Elina |
| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: School uniform |
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| jacketate wrote: |
What do people think of school uniforms?
having one stops a students freedom of expression,and freedom is the souls right to breath.
but then again it can instill a community atmosphere and makes it harder for any weirdos to walk off with you.
It also stops the inevitable competition, with rich kids laughing at poor kids.
any other benefits or problems you guys can think of.
I'm interested in your ideas |
Well, the rich kids would still laught at the poor ones. If they couldn't compare clothes, they would compare watches, family cars, houses...
There will always be bullying in schools. If someone wants to bully someone, the bullier will make up a reason. School uniforms won't reduce it. |
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| leohopkins |
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That is correct, but a school uniform is a symbol of place in society. If you ask me, kids these days get far more freedom that they should.
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| Chemboy |
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It seems to me that the main idea of school uniforms is to make everyone more 'equal,' though as Elina pointed out, differences will still be recognized and still cause problems. I'm definitely against the idea of school uniforms, it's terrible to make everyone conform to one style, squashing individuality and creativity.
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| Ophiolite |
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I wore a school uniform. I am in favour of school uniforms for all the conventional reasons. It is useful for children to learn that a productive society benefits from a mix of convention and uniformity on the one hand with radicalism and individuality on the other.
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irrelevant post
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| NeptuneCircle |
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| Try going to a job interview with your ass hanging out and see how successful you are. |
That all depends on what kind of job your being interviewed for 
I think the question is how much of social interactions is about what you wear. I find that clothes, especially with the female specimen, play an important part of attraction. In fact, i'd almost argue, that contrary to belief, clothes increase female and male sexuality, not decrease it.
But school is not the place for that. |
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| jacketate wrote: |
| irrelevant post |
OK Kid, whatever you say.  |
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| Ophiolite |
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| jacketate wrote: |
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What was irrelevant about it? It seemed explicitly and implicitly spot on, to me.
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There are no negative points to a school uniform in my opinion. If you believe that they cannot express their individuality you have to remember that a lot of conformity takes place at young age. The benefits are I'd say that no pupil within the school feels different, even if they disagree they all still feel connected someway, I did. It also teaches children to be formal which without that education would lead to being unable to dress accordingly for say work, due to lack of experience.
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| jacketate |
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| Try going to a job interview with your ass hanging out and see how successful you are. |
no one is going to go to a job interview with there ass hanging out. so one count it is irrelevant because its unrealistic
secondly the debate is about school uniform. a job interview isn't really relevant.
it doesn't seem to contribute to the debate so i cant see how it is relevant
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I disagree, the chronological effects of wearing a school uniform will have effects when it comes to understanding how job interviews work. Appearences. If you look a sack of crap you ain't gettin' the job. I believe job interviews are a relevant look at what happens if school uniforms are not protocol in school years, there will be a drag on effect for when the child becomes older.
Of course if you want to talk about school itself and school uniform with it alone and leave after affects to contribute to your original post, I will  .
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| I disagree, the chronological effects of wearing a school uniform will have effects when it comes to understanding how job interviews work. Appearences. If you look a sack of crap you ain't gettin' the job. I believe job interviews are a relevant look at what happens if school uniforms are not protocol in school years, there will be a drag on effect for when the child becomes older. |
I disagree. Having to wear a school uniform may increase the likelihood that a child will dress nicely in the future, but it's not necessary. I never had to wear a uniform and I like dressy clothes. Nor did I ever want to appear inappropriately dressed. Children do have parents after all, and if I was unsure what was best for the situation, I'd ask my mother.
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