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| Yash |
 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: Life |
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Hi !! Friends
I just wanted to know that what is the actual meaning of Life according to you or what are we made to do ??
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| Ophiolite |
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Follow our genetic predispositions in a manner that generates self satisfaction and enhances the condition of the biosphere and the majority of its members.
Alternatively, if you can't work that into your schedule, or your inclinations, get seriously pissed as often as possible.
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Simply: Life is entropy's nemesis.
Additional, subjective purposes necessarily emerge with different forms of life.
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| Raziell |
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Well, to give life meaning you have to have all the knowledge of the universe first.
Humankind is thinking way to short term.
To stay alive long enough to discover the secrets of the universe should be our ultimate goal. And is needed to answer "What is the meaning / purpose of life"
The universe is a formidable enemy and the chanse to advance technologically to a point were we can survive it is seemingly impossible. A single chuck of rock hitting our tiny planet is enough to crush it.
Close future goals:
1: Become immortal (For the most powerfull men on the planet to actually care about the enviroment and things like that and the long term survival of the planet) Achieving biological immortality is a must in my opinion.
2: Unite our planet and make it run effectively.
3: Discover new energy sources.
Long term goals:
Survive the universe, learn it and understand it and get technology capable of manipulating, creating, destroying, traveling, and use it at whim.
Only after harvesting all the knowledge and power of the universe against all odds can we deserve the arrogance of giving life a meaning and purpose if any.
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| Yash |
| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Raziell wrote: |
Well, to give life meaning you have to have all the knowledge of the universe first.
Humankind is thinking way to short term.
To stay alive long enough to discover the secrets of the universe should be our ultimate goal. And is needed to answer "What is the meaning / purpose of life"
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Hey, Raziell !! Your half of the post is somewhat similar to mine, which i had earlier asked other members of this site about 2 years back !!
http://www.thescienceforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10619&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Since, these two years my thinking has got a new and improved path/direction. So, finding answers weren't that though now. 
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| Raziell |
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So what did you find out?
Personally i think as i said that technological advance to the point i mentioned is needed to find out these things but...
The guy in post 2. on your old thread has a point also, why is it so important to have a purpose?
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| SkinWalker |
| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Life |
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| Yash wrote: |
Hi !! Friends
I just wanted to know that what is the actual meaning of Life according to you or what are we made to do ??
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It has whatever meaning you apply to it. If you apply no meaning or self-worth, then it becomes meaningless. If you defer all meaning to deities of human construct and superstition, then you are meaningless. If, however, you look within and discover meaning for yourself, then you are meaningful.
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---To search for the answer to the question, “Is there anything more?” It can subjectively be phrased in any way you wish, even to the point of asking, "Is this all there is?", but the objective search and the objective question it comes from is still the same.
---When the answer is found or believed to be, “There is nothing more.”, either death/cessation of the changing flow of existence or acceptance/an existence of unchanging in any way, shape or form follows.
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There are different ways to read the question. Only some of them would prompt a wishy-washy response. For example nothing vague about the early Mars lander soil tests "for life", working on a certain definition of life.
"Meaning" is a loaded term, so I think it might be better to ask, "What are the special conditions and characteristics of life?" Note by that question one may still hold grand beliefs, i.e. religious, and convey the full significance through our answer. Yet an uninspired robot could also answer the question.
How generally do we answer the question? Does "life" mean all plausible life, as an absolute definition, or does it mean Earth life, or mammals, or humans. Or just good, sane humans? I think the latter answers may be cagey. Not wanting to dictate, of course.
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| Yash |
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| Raziell wrote: |
So what did you find out?
Personally i think as i said that technological advance to the point i mentioned is needed to find out these things but...
The guy in post 2. on your old thread has a point also, why is it so important to have a purpose?
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I came to know that life all based upon your deeds, deeds in the sense means good one.
The more closer you stay on the path of truth and have positive attitude towards everything you see, hear, listen, the more closer you come to true meaning of life.
Doing, all good and making positive attitude towards everything around you, isn't limited. I mean, keep the above mentioned attitude till your last breath.
I know, that not letting your mind getting diverted from good/positive thinking, till the end, is a tough job, but still if one becomes successful in doing so, he/she will surely come out of the cycle of life and death and this isn't that easy to achieve.
One should try to understand him/herself, because only then your conscience power will become more strong. So, that you can easily distinguish between right and wrong.
^_^
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---Pong.
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| Does "life" mean all plausible life, as an absolute definition, or does it mean Earth life, or mammals, or humans. Or just good, sane humans? |
---It may be an assumption on my part, but I believe that Yash isn’t attempting to dissect what exactly life is, but merely that what it is or might be has a meaning as a part of its existence.
---To have a discussion about what life is will too quickly degenerate into arguments debating life as being from the patterns of energy that make up the science of physics to the level of if a mind is physically based or something more.
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| To have a discussion about what life is will too quickly degenerate into arguments debating life as being from the patterns of energy that make up the science of physics to the level of if a mind is physically based or something more. |
I think that if we start with "life opposes entropy (death)", and proceed methodically, we predict necessary higher-level subjectivity, that would (for your example) hold mind aloof from the empirical world. You're right, Yash's question rather expects we leap to positions.
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Actually, i just started off with this topic "Life", because i just wanted to know that how do you people take/understand the meaning of life.
The concept of "life" as i stated, is quite tough to follow but still if we all succeed in following it, then our life will surely become more lively.
GOD BLESS
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There is no meaning to life, except what we make of it.
There is no deity, and we are the result of evolution. If you wish, you can take as the meaning of your life to become successful in terms of evolution and reproduce madly. At least that is fun!
Or else, if you wish, adopt whatever meaning you care to. Or as previously said, just get pissed a lot. |
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| Or as previously said, just get pissed a lot. |
Or one of those portable auto in-vitro medicine dispensers and a few gallons of Colombian Morphine. That should sort you out.
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