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| LegalEagle |
 Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: Is C a subset of C++? |
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| I know C, and I also know some C++, and I think all of C can be used in C++, but not vice versa. So, I have to ask, is C a subset of C++? |
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| CShark |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| The short answer is Yes, C is a subset of C++. It's really the other way round, C++ being an Object Oriented version of C. Once you start coding in C++, you see (no pun intended) how powerful and simpler C++ is. |
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| LegalEagle |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| I think you're right. I took some courses in both languages a few years ago, and C++ is a superset of C. I belong to the school of thought that says that you should learn C before learning C++. |
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| marnixR |
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C came first, and C++ is an object orientated improvement on C (the name C++ is actually a geek joke, meaning C = C + 1, geddit ?)
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| CShark |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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er....yeah, C++ did come after C. As for learning which first, trying to understand C++ before C may be a bit more than you can chew. You may wish to start with basic (any flavour will do) before moving to C.
Read up on OOP as well (as previously mentioned). We can do the compiler-wars at that stage! |
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| LegalEagle |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I never took a course in Basic, but I have read some of the language a while ago, and I think it's neat. |
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| ExecuZen I.T. |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: learning |
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If you have not yet learnt either, then I would strongly recommend to go straight into C++ without learning C first. While it is true that C++ is a superset of C, and that virtually any legal C program is a legal C++ program, the leap from C to C++ is very significant. C++ benefited from its relationship to C for many years, as C programmers could ease into their use of C++. To really get the full benefit of C++, however, many programmers found they had to unlearn much of what they knew and learn a whole new way of conceptualizing and solving programming problems.
reference: http://newdata.box.sk/bx/c/
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| CShark |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: Re: learning |
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| ExecuZen I.T. wrote: |
If you have not yet learnt either, then I would strongly recommend to go straight into C++ without learning C first. While it is true that C++ is a superset of C, and that virtually any legal C program is a legal C++ program, the leap from C to C++ is very significant. C++ benefited from its relationship to C for many years, as C programmers could ease into their use of C++. To really get the full benefit of C++, however, many programmers found they had to unlearn much of what they knew and learn a whole new way of conceptualizing and solving programming problems.
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I disagree. Having gone the C to C++ route, once I understood how objects worked, the rest was simple, because I had a good foundation in C.
Imagine trying to understand x == 10 ? y = 16 : y = 5; if you have never coded before. Trying to grasp syntax is one thing, applying it is another. As C is a subset, it makes sense to start 'small' and work your way up. |
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| LegalEagle |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| As C is a subset, it makes sense to start 'small' and work your way up. |
Agreed. But I say that partly because that was the route I took - first I took Pascal, then C, then C++. |
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| CShark |
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| As C is a subset, it makes sense to start 'small' and work your way up. |
Agreed. But I say that partly because that was the route I took - first I took Pascal, then C, then C++. |
Indeed. My reasoning was the same.
Never got into Pascal, except having to learn to declare a function when first picking up 'C' (Is that not originally from Pascal....?) |
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