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| zendra |
 Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: Inside -trons |
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I was watching a dvd and it was talking about how inside neutrons, protons,etc are things called porks(or porcs).I have never heard of anything like this before and was hoping someone could shed some light on it please. Thanks
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| Gregchf |
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i think you mean quarks!! i'm not to sure on the specifics!! But there are two tipes!! Up and down quarks!! An up quark has the charge of +2/3 and a down quark has the charge on -1/3!! i'm sure that wiki will have some proper anwsers for you!!
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| Gregchf |
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sorry should have also said that a proton and a nutron are both made up of three quarks!! two up and one down for a proton and two down and one up for a nutron!!
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| AlexP |
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Actually, there are six types (called "flavors") of quarks. They are up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom. The up, charm, and top quarks have a charge of positive two-thirds and the down, strange, and bottom charges of negative one-third.
Protons consist of two up quarks and a down quark for a net charge of positive one. Neutrons consist of one up quark and two down quarks for a net charge of zero.
Quarks can be found in bound states consisting of two in which case they form a meson, or consisting of three in which they form a baryon (protons and neutrons are baryons).
They interact by exchange of gluons, which mediate one of the four fundamental forces known as the strong force. They possess "color charge," which has nothing to do with actual colors. A meson or baryon will always be color charge-neutral. Look up quarks on Wikipedia for more info.
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| Halliday |
| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Inside -trons |
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| zendra wrote: |
| I was watching a dvd and it was talking about how inside neutrons, protons,etc are things called porks(or porcs).I have never heard of anything like this before and was hoping someone could shed some light on it please. Thanks |
No;"porks(or porcs)" ,or even pork, is what you find inside pigs!
I find it surprising that a high school student, with an interest in science, has never heard of quarks.
I agree that new information about quarks is fascinating, and maybe I sound like a
bad tempered adult, but why not check, first, what the objects are really called by typing, into Google, something like "what is inside the proton/neutron"?
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| zendra |
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Fair enough. I thought i would ask here because the dvd was around 10 years old and i thought maybe the reason i hadn't heard of them was that they had been disproved since
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| Gregchf |
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| and maybe I sound like a bad tempered adult, but why not check, first, |
Yes, yes you do!! And i dare say its pritty difficult to google something that you have heard incorrectly. So I thought that this is a very sensable place to find out what zendra wanted to know.
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| Halliday |
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| Gregchf wrote: |
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| and maybe I sound like a bad tempered adult, but why not check, first, |
Yes, yes you do!! And i dare say its pritty difficult to google something that you have heard incorrectly. So I thought that this is a very sensable place to find out what zendra wanted to know. |
Maybe it is a "sensible place" but zendra didn't need to Google anything he/she had "heard incorrectly".
The original question was about the name of the objects believed to be inside the proton and the neutron. It would have been simpler, and quicker, to have asked questions, such as "what is inside the proton/neutron?" or "does the proton/neutron have an internal structure?", to Google or any other search engine.
At least, that is what I would have done and then, possibly, posted a question, on the Science Forum, for more information about quarks. |
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| Gregchf |
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why are you on here if you don't want to help people?! this isn't a place to come and just be rude. its a place to help people understand chemistry better!!!
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| Gregchf wrote: |
| why are you on here if you don't want to help people?! this isn't a place to come and just be rude. its a place to help people understand chemistry better!!! |
I don't think I could help anyone understand chemistry. I am "on here" to learn more about science myself.
I just made the point it would have been simpler and quicker to google such a question. This is relevant because some individuals post questions here for a variety of reasons and not always because they really want information.
I say again I found it surprising that a high school student, with an interest in science, had never heard of quarks. I heard about these objects years ago, from general knowledge, before they were ever mentioned to me in a science class. That is not very surprising considering quarks, given present knowledge, must be considered as one of the fundamental building blocks of matter!
Having said that I have no reason to believe that zendra's question was not a genuine request, but I still believe it is better to go to search engines to answer certain types of question.
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| Heinsbergrelatz |
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wow this is hilarious(not in an offending way)- it is actually known and called as quarks. They are bounded by gluon which describes the strong interaction or color force. this is known as Quantum Chromodynamics. there are also other theories such as the electro-weak interaction etc...
but the important thing is its "Quarks" not "Porks"  |
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| Geo |
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| That's how you say it, like pork, not lark. |
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