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Raymond K
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Hypothesis Reply with quote

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When atoms with high energy levels release energy to go to a lower energy level it is called a quantum jump, right? Well in many of these situations the atom releases light, or photons. Perhaps the photons are energy that electrons have turned into, and as the energy condenses and reaches a slower vibration it becomes the electron once more. Now of course some photons will not condense because energy is being lost, and these are the photons we see.

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Since atoms release energy when the electrons move overall closer to the nucleus of that atom, we can conclude that the more potential energy the atom has, the further away its electrons are from the nucleus. Naturally positve and negative charges want to touch, something must be something holding them apart, and a reason, which I think is energy.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Hypothesis Reply with quote

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Raymond K wrote:
When atoms with high energy levels release energy to go to a lower energy level it is called a quantum jump, right? Well in many of these situations the atom releases light, or photons. Perhaps the photons are energy that electrons have turned into, and as the energy condenses and reaches a slower vibration it becomes the electron once more. Now of course some photons will not condense because energy is being lost, and these are the photons we see.


According to modern quantum theory, the electron is constantly changing shape, orientation and even identity. To speak of condensing photons is not helpful because it assumes some sort of identity. All we have, however, are the probability wave-functions for the electron.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly. Well, photons are the carrier agent of the electromagnetic force, but it is ill-phrased to speak of electrons as solid particles that appear and disappear. This is a very old and overly simplified concept.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dishmaster wrote:
Exactly. Well, photons are the carrier agent of the electromagnetic force, but it is ill-phrased to speak of electrons as solid particles that appear and disappear. This is a very old and overly simplified concept.



Is this Quantum physics anything like Quantas physics?


http://www.Rockwelder.com/WMV/Quantas/Quantas.html

Take no offense, this is all in good fun.


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="William McCormick"]
Is this Quantum physics anything like Quantas physics?
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Hmm, not sure. Quantas mechanics seems very continuous to me although a leap could be observed. Maybe it has some advantages, as you can easily measure both location and velocity accurately at the same time.
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Raymond K
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can conclude that my hypothesis is wrong?
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Raymond K wrote:
I can conclude that my hypothesis is wrong?


Or not helful to our understanding of the processes.

For instance, in the quantum interaction situation entropy does not really apply - the energy equations on both sides of the reation exactly balance out and (apart from some rare exceptions) can occur symmetrically either way. Therefore in that sense there is no point talking about energy being 'lost'.

Don't know if this helps, but it's what I think...
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