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| Hanuka |
 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: Flying tank ammunition |
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Hello guys,
Does anyone here knows what happens to your body when a tank caliber passes near your (in a radious of like less then 1meters)?
Does the force pushes you or like rips your hand off or something like this?
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| SteveF |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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You will certainly feel (and hear) some wind effects but that's all that will happen. A near miss will do no harm.
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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kk man,
thanks for the answer btw xD |
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| Cold Fusion |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Why? Are you expecting to be shot at?  I think that it would scare you enough and create enough pressure to throw you off of your feet.
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| Pong |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| A Reuters cameraman was killed by Israeli tank shell a few days ago. I guess the IDF is claiming they were firing on some threat behind him, he shouldn't have been in the way... |
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Pong wrote: |
| A Reuters cameraman was killed by Israeli tank shell a few days ago. I guess the IDF is claiming they were firing on some threat behind him, he shouldn't have been in the way... |
That's offtopic here, please stay ontopic and/or open a new thread elsewhere to discuss this. |
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| Pong |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree 100%. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Flying tank ammunition |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
Hello guys,
Does anyone here knows what happens to your body when a tank caliber passes near your (in a radious of like less then 1meters)?
Does the force pushes you or like rips your hand off or something like this?
tony |
It can blow your skull open. I knew an older World War One fellow. And he had been on the battle field. While the Germans were firing the large caliper guns over head. Even twenty five feet away the shells would pop skulls. A lot of the World War One guys all had plates in their heads from that.
There is an electrical charge preceding the round. A plasma cutting ray.
Most people think that a bullet can cut through armor and steel using kinetic energy. In fact the bullet uses a plasma ray. Just like a plasma cutter. Many people saw the 911 videos of the plane crashing into the twin towers.
Many wondered what that white ARC in front of the plane was. It formed just as it was near the building. That is a plasma ray. It may just be the liquid in the air. However that ARC or lighted area, cuts metal.
http://www.Rockwelder.com/Flash/ForceofOneBullet/ForceofOneBullet.html
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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lol the reason why I`m asking this is coz i`m due to join the army in about 1 year so many questions are bugging my head this time xD
And btw, thanks for the answer william, but can you please explain me how the plasma rays generate? is it couse the friction between the bullet and the air or just the pressure?
and btw, why does the armour of the guys in the video was flaoted when he shot a revolver caliber at it??
thanks,
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| serpicojr |
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| Take what William says with a grain of salt. |
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| bit4bit |
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He means that williams responses should not be taken seriously.
I think hes been playing too many computer games if you ask me...."plasma rays"??
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| Demon X01 |
| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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For the most part I have never heard of anyone being blown over from a near miss. The tank round is designed to be aerodynamic, meaning it cutts though the air instead of pushing massive amounts of it around. Now I can say that back blasts from such weapons as an RPG, LAW, AT-4 can knock you over from about a foot to two feet.
But again I can not really say never had a tank shoot at me before let alone have a round pass so close.
To tell you the truth if you have a tank shooting at you, you have alot more to worry about than weather a near miss will knock you on your ass. A 120mm Renistien shell fired from the M1A1 Abrams Tank, depending on the ammuintion can have a kill radius of a couple hundred feet. Shrapnel is bad very bad. 
And the part about the plasma rays? WTF?
Sorry, but don't see how any bullet travaling on avrage 2,900 ft/s (High Velocity Rounds I.E. 5.56x45mm Nato) is going to produce enough heat that on impact it creats a super hot ray of gas/liquidly stuff called plasma. Bullets that nomally are used to destroy hard targets contain a massively strong metal core such as tungsten that uses energy and sheer force to blow though the target. Incendiary rounds use a chemical compostion in the nose of the round to cause a thermal reation. But nomally bullet just destroy thier intended targets though tissue disruption and impact.
Sorry no plasma rays.
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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hm... it seems that the answers very from every post xD
so to sum it up, lets say a tank caliber just passed me (near my arm) by 1 inch... and it hit and exploded somewhere far away from me so i aint getting hurt from the blast, but the force is to be knocking me off my feet/doing nothing/ripping my arm or just pushing me a bit?? |
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| Demon X01 |
| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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If you had a round from a tank move around a half to one foot from you I am sure you will feel it's precence, proably clothing moved or disturbed. Now anything nearer than 6 inches you might feel heat and your arm might move, in the worse case senerio I could maybe see some burns or a large jolt while it moves past you.
But again I have never heard of anyone suffering an injury from a round coming close to them. Could the round going past you knock you on your ass maybe but I highly think it to be implausible. And I can tell you this it would in no way rip your arm off your body unless direct contact was made. I mean consider the speed at which the round is moving past your body. It moves so fast that even if it did go past you would not realize it untill it was at its target. Not that, that matters, it's just there are hundreds and thousands of things that are way more likely to effect you on a battlefield especailly now days when with a few exceptions ( USA, Great Britian, and Allied Forces.) can field enough armor for it to not be taken out within the first few weeks of an intial engagment in which most all of it will be destroyed with tactial airstrikes.
So if you have anymore questions feel free to ask me. If there is one thing I can do it is provide information about the Armed Forces.
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