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| gabilot84 |
 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: Does anybody belive in past lifes? |
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I had a very strange dream time ago, i dreamed that i was a little child, living in a complety different city, my name wasnt Gabriela, i remember something about Carmen, it was a very strange dream.
i was watching a movie called What a bleep do we know??? so, in this movie appear Ramtha... is it that possible or not??
Does anybody wanna share about ur strangest dreams that u ever had before?? |
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| Wolf |
| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| gabilot84 wrote: |
| Does anybody belive in past lifes? |
My past incarnation did, but I don't.  |
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| Junglist_Movement |
| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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if there can be an afterlife why not a pre-life? if death isnt the end why is birth the beginning? if were immortal isnt it illogical to say that we have a beginning since infinite is not possibly by nature? too many ifs lol. but i think past lives makes sense, if your interested you can look up what people have said about past life memories and pre-birth experiences, then come to your own conclusion. or just eat a bunch of mushrooms and peyote like the natives did 
one of my stranges dreams recently happened a few months ago.
i dreamed i was a wolf and was with my pack. i remember it was winter and we were in the woods. i came up with an idea, dont really remember what it was but it was important, and i really wanted to tell the rest of my pack what it was, but every time i tried to speak i made weird noises and they all started looking at me like i was crazy. then i panicked and woke up. man what a dream that was lol.
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| Jellyologist |
| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Does anybody belive in past lifes? |
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| gabilot84 wrote: |
I had a very strange dream time ago, i dreamed that i was a little child, living in a complety different city, my name wasnt Gabriela, i remember something about Carmen, it was a very strange dream.
i was watching a movie called What a bleep do we know??? so, in this movie appear Ramtha... is it that possible or not??
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| kojax |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Would you really be yourself without your memories, or as another species of animal? What part of you would still be there? You'd have an awful hard time thinking any of the same thoughts you think now if you didn't have human intelligence. |
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| zinjanthropos |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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No doubt everyone one of us, as part of our physical makeup, contains a particle or two of a past lifeform. Recycled matter, only in a different body. Perhaps by chance that recycled matter once played an integral role in some other organisms genetic makeup or conscience, a small byte that accidentally becomes burned into another person's genome.
Do I think it something paranormal? Not a chance. Do I believe what I wrote in that first paragraph. Not really, but I thought it might be fun to put down what I used to think about reincarnation when I was a kid.
However the universe was formed, life was there at the beginning. Life is part of the universe just like space and time. Its just one of many mysteries that we, as people, can strive to understand. |
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| Theoryofrelativity |
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: |
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When science discovers that genes store memory- fractal memory
They will realise that certain past experiences of a donor/parent are carried forward to any offspring/transplant patients etc.
Science will discover that this is the mechanism behind evolution and NOT survival of the fittest which facilitiates the process rather than initiating it.
So yes we do have past lives. It is impossible not to given that none of us arrived here by ourselves.
We are one long ongoing organism that divides itself up rather like certain plants
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| zinjanthropos |
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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For life...there is no death. It simply continues on in various forms of animation. The death of a single organism is not the end of life when you think of it as a whole.
For a piece of matter, the number of times it could be a part of a living organism is probably endless, or for as long as the universe can sustain the conditions it requires. |
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| Lightingbird |
| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm late on this. Some people have said some interesting things.
I was watching show, "the universe" the other day on the history channel and they explained that our entire makeup as humans are all parts of the building blocks for stars. Every single one them. If thats true then it only makes sense that past life exist.
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| zinjanthropos |
| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Lightingbird wrote: |
......our entire makeup as humans are all parts of the building blocks for stars. Every single one them. If thats true then it only makes sense that past life exist. |
Or life has always existed.
Life in this universe it seems, requires 3D objects in order to manifest itself. Is there a single piece of matter that cannot be incorporated into a living thing? I'm not sure. |
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| Lightingbird |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed.
Thats been my thinking for years. Makes you wonder if our NASA team should go to saturn and grab some of those ring rocks and do some extensive research on them. |
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| zinjanthropos |
| Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Lightingbird wrote: |
| Makes you wonder if our NASA team should go to saturn and grab some of those ring rocks and do some extensive research on them. |
I think you could grab as many rocks as you want from various parts of the universe, do extensive research on them and be nowhere closer to finding out what life is, than if you stayed on Earth.
So the question becomes: is matter alive? I don't think rocks are alive and therefore none of the particles that compromise a living being are alive but matter is necessary for life, if only for construction material. Granted, when arranged a certain way, matter gives the appearance of what we call being alive.
I'm not going to advocate that there is a divine intelligence or an ethereal but unseen force from some other dimension/realm that is driving all this. I will say that life might be some type of naturally occuring static energy or force(I don't like these words but...?) that permeates the universe, virtually undetectable. All it requires is certain conditions for it to be put in motion. No doubt in the long history of the universe these conditions have been met, at least once anyways.
It appears that all life as we know it requires matter. Do we know of a life form without it? Matter's properties and the forces of nature all contribute to the construction of a life form. Even the words life form suggests some type of physical construct or machine needs to be built in order for life to manifest itself. Is matter imbued with something analagous to preprogrammed software to become or at least start the building of a life form when the situation presents itself? |
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| marnixR |
| Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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if you want a debate on what is life and what isn't, see How did Viruses come about??? in the biology section
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| zinjanthropos |
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I don't possess enough knowledge on the subject to join in that debate. My stance is that since matter is not alive, then it can't suddenly be alive once it becomes part of living organism. Something else is going on. However matter may possess some property that causes it to be alive or en masse it at least contributes to a life or life form.
Life, whatever it is, a spark, a force, a yet undiscovered form of energy needs matter in certain conditions in order to to be activated. Once activated, life will animate matter forever or at least until all life forms die. I like to think that life is more than a bunch of chemical and electrical activity and I really hate to delve into anything unworldly or supernatural. So I have probably stretched things a bit towards that possibility but I really think life is just something inherent in our little 3D universe. |
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| marnixR |
| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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in short, life is an energy capturing chemical structure which it uses to make copies of itself - nothing mystical about that
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