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| marcusclayman |
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"new study of Chinese-American youth has found that family obligation, for example caring for siblings or helping elders, plays a positive role in the mental health of Chinese-American adolescents and may prevent symptoms of depression in later teenage years."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090604124804.htm
Just thought this might be useful for some people out there looking for alternative treatments for depression.
You can't ignore the east-west duality of philosophy and culture though. The east tends to focus more on one's responsibilities whereas the west tends to focus more on one's individuality. So it is possible the helping one's family, might just be comforting that socially engineered part of the brain. In western culture it might do the opposite. So art, for example, might help the westerner more. Of course these are generalizations, and there are bound to be exceptions. In my opinion though there is an ideal balance between civil duty and individual expression.
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Solution no.2:
Put depressed people in jail.
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| marcusclayman |
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LOL
I was thinking forced labor camps. Since exercise and responsibility is correlated with helping fight depression.
Just kidding
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I had a discussion on depression with a friend of mine just the other day. We think that depression is somewhat a luxary problem. Poor people who are figthing just to keep themselves and/or their families alive seem to have less depression or suicidal problems. So it is probably true that when you have responsibilities other then your own, the chance of becoming depressed is smaller then when being alone.
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Indeed, though it might just be easier to hide/forget when your busy.
It does seem to be most predominant in those who have the most free time.
but that in no way is to say that all people suffering from depression are lazy, to the contrary, they might be overworked and over stressed, trying to avoid the symptoms
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| spuriousmonkey wrote: |
Solution no.2:
Put depressed people in jail. |
Seems like a plan since all the medication we have created for them isn't working.
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We could give them morphine or endorphines at a regular basis. Twice a day or something.
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Yeah that would work too, at that point who cares if they end up with a dependency as long as they are happy right?
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Make them watch Oprah Winfrey.
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Eeew... The thought alone makes me want to puke!
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| spuriousmonkey wrote: |
Solution no.2:
Put depressed people in jail. |
More expensive than paying for the various drugs, in all likelihood.
Let them deal with it themselves, I say. It may sound heartless, but it works very well for me. I'd hate to become dependant on a drug or a person to prevent me being depressed.
Almost all problems can be solved if you are willing to go out and solve them.
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I've never seen a depressed person dance. I don't know if they are related, but I think anyone who is depressed and trying to "cure" themselves might think about heading to a jazz club and getting loosened up for starters.
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| Artemis wrote: |
| I had a discussion on depression with a friend of mine just the other day. We think that depression is somewhat a luxary problem. Poor people who are figthing just to keep themselves and/or their families alive seem to have less depression or suicidal problems. So it is probably true that when you have responsibilities other then your own, the chance of becoming depressed is smaller then when being alone. |
Call me a cynic (if thats even spelled correctly) but i think the sole reason people feel better for helping others are PURELY from a selfish standpoint.
1) They get attention.
2) They see people that has it worse than them.
3) They are given a sense of purpose. Idioticly enough it seems humans are addicted to having a "purpose" wich is why i love nihilism wich spits in the face of that very idea. Purpose seem to make people happy by giving them a sense of self-worth. Wich is destructive because it amplifies the value of WHAT a person is and not WHO a person is. |
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It sure would be a selfish world if everyone did things for other people wouldnt it!?
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| Artemis wrote: |
| I had a discussion on depression with a friend of mine just the other day. We think that depression is somewhat a luxary problem. Poor people who are figthing just to keep themselves and/or their families alive seem to have less depression or suicidal problems. So it is probably true that when you have responsibilities other then your own, the chance of becoming depressed is smaller then when being alone. |
Call me a cynic (if thats even spelled correctly) but i think the sole reason people feel better for helping others are PURELY from a selfish standpoint.
1) They get attention.
2) They see people that has it worse than them.
3) They are given a sense of purpose. Idioticly enough it seems humans are addicted to having a "purpose" wich is why i love nihilism wich spits in the face of that very idea. Purpose seem to make people happy by giving them a sense of self-worth. Wich is destructive because it amplifies the value of WHAT a person is and not WHO a person is. |
I call you an Egoist, not a cynic. Egotistically speaking, every action made had been selfish at it's core. Meh, it's a way of thinking, and I can see how it's true.
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