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EdP
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Cordless phone near microwave Reply with quote

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I recently purchased a VTech cordless 2.4GHz phone that has a base unit as well as an extension handset. The User Guide suggests to place units away from electronic equipment such as microwave ovens, but they don't say why. I want to keep the extension near a microwave oven.

If the only problem is bad reception, I don't see it as a problem. But if there's a chance that something in the phone might be damaged somehow, then I will move it to a less desirable but safer place.

So, what's the effect of a microwave oven on a cordless phone?

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: The answer Reply with quote

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How many gigahertz is your phone? The microwave is 2 gigahertz, if your phone is also 2 gigahertz, then you will get some static and your phone will squeak when you get close to the microwave while it's working. It won't damage the phone, just it might damage ur hearing. If your microwave is broken then u will hear super squeaks on your phone. If you do hear super squeaks, you have to get a new microwave. If your phone is 1 gigahertz, it still will squeak, but not as much.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks, Nima ...

As I noted in my original post, my phone is 2.4GHz.

If the only problem is interference, then for me, there's no problem - I'll just turn off the microwave when I get a call or I won't answer the phone ... depending.

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I actually have a Panasonic microwave here that says on the back that it operates at 2400 MHz (2.4 GHz). It's why I purchased a 5.8 GHz phone Smile My wireless doesn't appear to be too badly affected by this, I think the microwave must stay on freq pretty good. I notice if it's run for a long time and starts to get really hot that the wireless can be knocked out.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whoa, 5.8 GHz, that's awesome. I thought the most a phone goes is 3.6 GHz. Where did you buy yours from?
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nima Rahnemoon wrote:
Whoa, 5.8 GHz, that's awesome. I thought the most a phone goes is 3.6 GHz. Where did you buy yours from?


Here is the phone I have.

Here

or here

I like it. It uses normal AA NiMH batteries and even has a charger built in to charge two more and also power the base unit. So if the power goes out or the batteries die I'm not without the phone.
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: cordless fones and microwaves Reply with quote

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2.4 gig phones can be damaged near a microwave. the RF front end amplifiers in the handset and base receivers are VERY sensitive to milivolt
signals. A leaking microware can emit signal near them in the several volt
range. This causes the MOS device used in the receiver amps to become saturated, at which point, failure usually comes from over current heating
and the junction fails from current and heat, or the received voltage can actually punch through the dialectric materials used in the semiconductor
junction, also causeing a full device failure.

USUALLY....if your microwave leaks this much, it doesn't matter, you'll be glowing and mutating already, and not be contemplating making phone calls
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A Sony 2.4ghz Multihandset cordless phone. When one of the handsets was in use, it totally smashed my WLAN. No connection is possible what so ever...
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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microwaves react or obstruct the electromagnetic waves as microwaves r of high frequencies and hive very high power, so keep the base unit 10 feet away from microwave.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: cordless fones and microwaves Reply with quote






Dragon wrote:
2.4 gig phones can be damaged near a microwave. the RF front end amplifiers in the handset and base receivers are VERY sensitive to milivolt
signals. A leaking microware can emit signal near them in the several volt
range. This causes the MOS device used in the receiver amps to become saturated, at which point, failure usually comes from over current heating
and the junction fails from current and heat, or the received voltage can actually punch through the dialectric materials used in the semiconductor
junction, also causeing a full device failure.

USUALLY....if your microwave leaks this much, it doesn't matter, you'll be glowing and mutating already, and not be contemplating making phone calls


Well done Dragon, that's pretty much spot on - although microwaves can and do 'leak', their maximum permitted value is less than that radiated by a phone, however it may well be enough to destroy the 'front end' if placed close enough.

weknowtheword wrote:
microwaves react or obstruct the electromagnetic waves as microwaves r of high frequencies and hive very high power, so keep the base unit 10 feet away from microwave.


I'm not sure what sort of coffee you drink, but I'd seriously consider a brand change if it ends up with post's like that. Laughing
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a uniden cordless phone that is 2.4GHz...it is currently constantly low battery if you talk for about an hour on it!

In the current sharehouse I reside in the charging unit is about half a metre from the microwave and the powerpoint that the charger is BEHIND the microwave....is it possible that the phone is permanently damaged? or is the unit unable to charge properly with the microwave so close...?
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting post. Would this explain the whines i get when i use my mobile phone next to my computer?
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