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| LeavingQuietly |
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: Carbondioxide composition in air effect rain chemically how? |
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Carbondioxide is heavier and better on absorbing water.
Then the water shouldn't be able to get as far from the ocean as before.
Naturally the organic material on earths surface will be released. If we burn oil simultaneously, we dry.
And that is well dry. _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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huh ? _________________ if you find this place too crowded or too confrontational, how about trying Philosophorum,
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Where was it you lost me, best marnixR? _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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not sure what you mean by
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_________________ if you find this place too crowded or too confrontational, how about trying Philosophorum,
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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not sure what you mean by
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Does this mean you understood the rest of it? Maybe you can explain it to me.  |
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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now you've spoilt it ! i was leading up to that !  _________________ if you find this place too crowded or too confrontational, how about trying Philosophorum,
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: |
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now you've spoilt it ! i was leading up to that !  |
Oops, sorry.
Well, carbon dioxide is heavier than air, but I don't think that would affect how much water vapor is absorbed in the atmosphere. That would just depend on how much evaporates from the ocean, I think, and the warmer ocean will evaporate more moisture. Will it stay closer to the ocean? I don't see why. For that to happen, it would have to precipitate out faster. What does all this have to do with organic material? Nothing. LQ is quite simply daft. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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But naturally, if carbondioxide is absorbed 50 times better by water then oxygen, wouldn't the opposite also be true? _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| But naturally, if carbondioxide is absorbed 50 times better by water then oxygen, wouldn't the opposite also be true? |
No. This is from the Wikipedia article on dew point.
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So I think that shoots down your theory. Just out of curiosity, what do you or did you think is the connection to the release of gas and oil? |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| release of gas and oil? |
Release of gas and oil creates a layer on the sea that prevent water from becoming vapor.
Release of carbondioxide increase the procentage of carbondioxide in the atmosphere. This gives 2 scenarios;
Either the carbondioxide is held in water due to the interaction between micro (molecule) and macro (water) structure in which case a small drop satisfy the condition and absorb more gas which leads to a bit bigger and more stabil (if it was less stabil then carbondioxide would not be better absorbed) drops. Naturally then it will rain closer to where the water became vapor.
Or the carbondioxide is held in water due to its microstructure alone, which would cause the exact same thing but a lot worse.
Either way wikipedia must be hanged. Not literally, for all who wondered.´
The behavior of water vapor is dependent on gas, whether is be water vapor or radon gas. Gases also have a preasure around a planet case you didn't know. _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| LeavingQuietly wrote: |
| Release of gas and oil creates a layer on the sea that prevent water from becoming vapor. |
How did all that gas and oil get spilled into the sea?
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| Either the carbondioxide is held in water due to the interaction between micro (molecule) and macro (water) structure in which case a small drop satisfy the condition and absorb more gas which leads to a bit bigger and more stabil (if it was less stabil then carbondioxide would not be better absorbed) drops. Naturally then it will rain closer to where the water became vapor. |
No, when water evaporates it does not contain any of the stuff that was in the water with it. That is how the distillation process purifies water. So there wouldn't be anything making it rain closer to the sea.
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The way wikipedia works, anybody can edit it. If you think you have found a gross error why not go correct it. Be sure to explain on the wikipedia discussion page why you changed it so nobody will revert it. That should make for a fun discussion. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Harold14370 wrote: |
| No, when water evaporates it does not contain any of the stuff that was in the water with it. That is how the distillation process purifies water. So there wouldn't be anything making it rain closer to the sea. |
Stop being ignorant and of the point; listen for a moment. Carbondioxide is also in the atmosphere, the properties of a drop is the same as that of water; if it absorb carbondioxide it becomes more stabil, has a higher chance of becoming bigger and a higher chance of raining down. _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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surely you're not saying that CO2 and water combine to form oil ?
it forms the weak acid H2CO3 which is why rain water dissolves limestone in caves _________________ if you find this place too crowded or too confrontational, how about trying Philosophorum,
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| surely you're not saying that CO2 and water combine to form oil ? |
Only if they are absorbed through photosythesis and buried under high pressure for millions of years. _________________ A factor of a element must be a own elements and have its own factor time hence all elements are time.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| LeavingQuietly wrote: |
Stop being ignorant and of the point; listen for a moment. Carbondioxide is also in the atmosphere, the properties of a drop is the same as that of water; if it absorb carbondioxide it becomes more stabil, has a higher chance of becoming bigger and a higher chance of raining down. |
I think you are saying that a water drop with more dissolved CO2 will have higher surface tension. I don't know if that is true, and I don't think you do either. Try to use a little more science in your theories and less wild speculation. |
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