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| samcod75 |
 Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: Cancer rate explosion |
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| Has anyone else noticed that the Sun’s magnetic field has turned on its head and the spots are acting unpredictably plus the Earth magnetic field for all intensive purposes it now no- existent. The rate of change of the phenomenon has accelerated exponentially recently and does no one correlate this to the huge general rise in cancer world-wide and in the last year alone the massive increase and I mean massive increase to the point that doctors are scratching their heads wondering what is causing the skin cancer rate to explode? |
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| samcod75 |
| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| And another thing that is annoying me, Global warming. I agree its bad but what happens when Greenlands fresh water breaks the "please whatever you do dont break dam" and cascades into the most extremely sensitive stage of the ocean current. Saltwater mixed with a huge amount of freshwater rapidly at that point is not good. If you where alive towards the end of the last iceage just when you thought it was over the same thing happened at what we now know as the Great Lakes in North America plunging literally over night the entire world in something a wee bit chilly. i feel like i am in that movie i forget what its called where the two main characters get suspended in time and awake in the future and everyone is stupid |
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| Robbie |
| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Cancer rate explosion |
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| Has anyone else noticed that the Sun’s magnetic field has turned on its head and the spots are acting unpredictably plus the Earth magnetic field for all intensive purposes it now no- existent. The rate of change of the phenomenon has accelerated exponentially recently and does no one correlate this to the huge general rise in cancer world-wide and in the last year alone the massive increase and I mean massive increase to the point that doctors are scratching their heads wondering what is causing the skin cancer rate to explode? |
No, that's wrong, it hasnt flipped yet and skin cancer rates have not really increased inexplicably, Id love to see your references,
Global warming (or the end or beginning of the ice age) does not happen overnight, have you never woken up one day and thought it was a bit chilly? Im sure you didnt suspect the ice age returning.
There is no geological dam in Greenland, again, do you have any references?
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| Scifor Refugee |
| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Cancer rate explosion |
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| samcod75 wrote: |
| Has anyone else noticed that the Sun’s magnetic field has turned on its head and the spots are acting unpredictably plus the Earth magnetic field for all intensive purposes it now no- existent. The rate of change of the phenomenon has accelerated exponentially recently and does no one correlate this to the huge general rise in cancer world-wide and in the last year alone the massive increase and I mean massive increase to the point that doctors are scratching their heads wondering what is causing the skin cancer rate to explode? |
Sources, please. |
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| samcod75 |
| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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I must say I am surprised at the amount of news articles I found just by using google
Just google: skin cancer increase
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=517677&in_page_id=1774
Skin cancer cases increase by 46 per cent in just seven years
Last updated at 22:28pm on 22nd February 2008

Rise: Skin cancer rates have increased by 46 per cent in seven years
Rates of deadly skin cancer have almost doubled in some areas in less than a decade, stark figures showed yesterday.
Across England, rates of malignant melanoma have shot up by 46 per cent in just seven years - making it the fastest growing cancer.
But in Yorkshire, there were 80 per cent more cases of this type of skin cancer in 2004 than in 1997, as people ignore warnings to stay out of the sun.
The Conservatives, who uncovered the disturbing statistics, slammed the Government for ignoring the risk and cutting funding for campaigns to educate people about the dangers of over-exposure.
Health spokesman Andrew Lansley said: "These figures are deeply concerning, especially the stark regional disparities.
"A relatively high level of melanoma is to be expected in sunnier regions where there is more outdoor activity as in the south west, but this is not the case in the north where incidences have risen well above the national average.
"In their dithering and short-term thinking, Labour have failed to make helping people understand how to stay healthy a priority.
"It's telling that they cut funding for their main information campaign against skin cancer just after the worst of the NHS financial crisis.
"And it's typical of their 'nanny state' approach that the best Alan Johnson could come up with on this issue in his cancer strategy was to think about banning sunbeds.
"More research is urgently required so that people become aware of the risks of skin cancer and preventative measures can be taken."
The figures reveal that in 1997, there were 5,000 cases of malignant melanoma - increasing to 7,400 in 2004 - a rise of 46 per cent.
There were vast discrepancies in the regional increase between 1997 and 2004.
As well as the 80 per cent increase seen in Yorkshire and the Humber, rates rose by 66 per cent in the east Midlands and 62 per cent in the south west. By contrast, the rise in London was just 6 per cent.
The highest rates for skin cancer are in the south west - in 2004 there were almost 1,300 cases, followed by the north west with just under 1,000.
Malignant melanoma is now England's fastest rising cancer - just ahead of prostate cancer.
It is the second most common form of cancer in 20 to 39 year olds. Around 2,000 people die from it every year in the UK.
Middle class women are two and a half times to get the disease than their working class counterparts.
Over the last 25 years the incidence in men has quadrupled and in women has tripled.
But despite the increased danger, the Government slashed funding for Cancer Research UK's SunSmart campaign from £150,000 in 2006/07 to £104,000 a year later - a reduction of 31 per cent.
The funding cut came in the wake of a damaging NHS financial crisis, when hospitals across the country were forced to close wards and cut jobs and services.
The campaign aims to raise awareness among young people of the dangers of skin cancer.
It spreads simple messages such as: Don't burn, spend time in the shade in the middle of the day, cover up with sunhats, glasses and T-shirts, use Factor 15 sunscreen to protect the skin and take particular care with young children.
Dr Julie Sharp of Cancer Research UK said: "We know that people from all areas of the UK take advantage of cheap flights to have holidays in hot climates.
"And our surveys have shown that an alarmingly high number of holiday-makers aim to come home with a suntan at any cost - even if it means getting burnt.
"But sunburn doubles the risk of malignant melanoma and the kind of sunbathing binges that happen when people go abroad and bake on the beach are particularly dangerous."
A spokesman for the Department of Health said: "Cancer care has improved significantly in the last ten years - clinicians, patients and cancer charities all agree.
"There are now more staff than ever before are caring for people with cancer, and over 99 per cent of patients referred urgently by their GP with a suspicion of cancer are now seen within two weeks.
"The SunSmart programme is just one of a range of measures the Department is funding to raise skin cancer awareness."
Google: iceage greenland fresh water
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2003/nov/13/comment.research
Will global warming trigger a new ice age?
If climate change disrupts ocean currents, things could get very chilly round here, reports Bill McGuire
Bill McGuire
The Guardian,
Thursday November 13 2003
Article history
If you can remember back to the bitter winters of the late 1970s and early 80s you might also recall that there was much discussion in scientific circles at the time about whether or not the freezing winter conditions were a portent of a new ice age.
Over the past couple of decades such warnings have been drowned out by the great global warming debate and by consideration of how society might cope in future with a sweltering planet rather than an icebound one. Seemingly, the fact that we are still within an interglacial period, during which the ice has largely retreated to its polar fastnesses, has been forgotten - and replaced with the commonly-held view that one good thing you can say about global warming is that it will at least stave off the return of the glaciers.
Is this really true, or could the rapidly accelerating warming that we are experiencing actually hasten the onset of a new ice age? A growing body of evidence suggests that, at least for the UK and western Europe, there is a serious risk of this happening - and soon.
The problem lies with the ocean current known as the Gulf Stream, which bathes the UK and north-west Europe in warm water carried northwards from the Caribbean. It is the Gulf Stream, and associated currents, that allow strawberries to thrive along the Norwegian coast, while at comparable latitudes in Greenland glaciers wind their way right down to sea level. The same currents permit palms to flourish in Cornwall and the Hebrides, whereas across the ocean in Labrador, even temperate vegetation struggles to survive. Without the Gulf Stream, temperatures in the UK and north-west Europe would be five degrees centigrade or so cooler, with bitter winters at least as fierce as those of the so-called Little Ice Age in the 17th to 19th centuries.
The Gulf Stream is part of a more complex system of currents known by a number of different names, of which the rather cumbersome North Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Namoc) is probably the most apt. This incorporates not only the Gulf Stream but also the cold return currents that convey water southwards again. As it approaches the Arctic, the Gulf Stream loses heat and part of it heads back to warmer climes along the coast of Greenland and eastern Canada in the form of the cold, iceberg-laden current responsible for the loss of the Titanic. Much, however, overturns - cooling and sinking beneath the Nordic seas between Norway and Greenland, before heading south again deep below the surface.
In the past, the slowing of the Gulf Stream has been intimately linked with dramatic regional cooling. Just 10,000 years ago, during a climatic cold snap known as the Younger Dryas, the current was severely weakened, causing northern European temperatures to fall by as much as 10 degrees. Ten thousand years before that, at the height of the last ice age, when most of the UK was reduced to a frozen wasteland, the Gulf Stream had just two-thirds of the strength it has now.
What's worrying is that for some years now, global climate models have been predicting a future weakening of the Gulf Stream as a consequence of global warming. Such models visualise the disruption of the Namoc, including the Gulf Stream, as a result of large-scale melting of Arctic ice and the consequent pouring of huge volumes of fresh water into the North Atlantic, in a century or two. New data suggest, however, that we may not have to wait centuries, and in fact the whole process may be happening already.
So that the warm, saline surface waters of the Gulf Stream can continue to push northwards, there must be a comparable, deep return current of cold, dense water from the Nordic seas. Disturbingly, this return current seems to have been slowing since the middle of the last century. Bogi Hansen at the Faroese fisheries laboratory, and colleagues in Scotland and Norway, have been monitoring the deep outflow of cold water from the Nordic seas as it passes over the submarine Greenland-Scotland ridge that straddles the North Atlantic at this point. Their results show that the outflow has fallen by 20% since 1950, which suggests a comparable reduced inflow from the Gulf Stream.
Although there is as yet no direct substantiation of this, and his colleagues point to reports of the cooling and freshening of the Norwegian Sea and to temperatures that are already falling in parts of the region as possible evidence of contemporary Gulf Stream weakening.
It also seems that it is not only the intensity of the outflow of cold water that is changing. Bob Dickson of the Centre for Environment, Fisheries, and Aquaculture Science at Lowestoft, and colleagues, have reported a sustained and widespread freshening of returning deep waters south of the Greenland-Scotland ridge, which appears to have been going on for the past three or four decades.
Already the freshening is extending along the North American eastern seaboard towards the equator, in the so-called Deep Western Boundary current.
One of the scariest aspects of the current dramatic changes occurring in the system of North Atlantic currents is that the deep, southward-flowing limb of the Namoc can be thought of as representing the headwaters of the worldwide system of ocean currents known as the Global Thermohaline Circulation. The possibility exists, therefore, that a disruption of the Atlantic currents might have implications far beyond a colder UK and north-west Europe, perhaps bringing dramatic climatic changes to the entire planet.
Yet again, this highlights the fact that global warming, for which we have only ourselves to thank, is nothing more nor less than a great planetary experiment, many of the outcomes of which we cannot predict. Wallace Broecker, an ocean circulation researcher at New York's Lamont-Doherty Earth observatory, described the situation perfectly when he pointed out that "climate is an angry beast and we are poking at it with sticks". Let's hope that when it truly turns on us, its teeth don't match its outrage.
· Bill McGuire is Benfield Professor of Geophysical Hazards and director of the Benfield Hazard Research Centre at University College London. He will appear on BBC2 Horizon's The Big Chill tonight |
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| Robbie |
| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:44 am Post subject: |
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ok yes perhaps threre has been an increase in skin cancer. If so it is accountable by issues such as increased travelling to places such as Spain and sun holidays with inappropriate skins type. Furthermore, cancer is a disease associated with old age, it is generally a sign of longevity to live long enough to die from cancer instead of heart disease.
Yeah, an ice age is a possibility, but not probable at all, and it would take a very long time, not within our lives!>
You may want to read your sources from something like nature magaine instead of he tabloids!
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| Orleander |
| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Wha??? Didn't it used to be fashionable to be pale? Compare that era to the tanning generation and of course skin cancer is gonna be on the rise. And don't more people go to doctors that in times past? Its gonna get noticed and diagnosed more. And what about what we have done to the ozone layer? And we live longer so more people can get it later in life. And we don't wear hats much anymore. And we show more skin now.
Lots of these things are behavioral, but because of the sun. |
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