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| jsispat |
 Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: BIRTH OF EARTH |
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I have some new ideas reg birth of earth. Can u pls comment on it .
1. earth is living thing like plants and growing.
2. so its birth is also from seed and universe is soil where it germinated
3. all meteroids are seeds of planets but out of very few can germinate.
4. pls see ate attached snaps these are attached snaps of cutted log showing its growth of tree and same way earth is growing layerwise. white layer is crust and red is core like material of earth.
i have more logics also
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| The Matt |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| Oh god, this again!? You still have no evidence for this I take it? Either find some or give it up! If after so long you still can't find any, think what the reason for this might be. |
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| Ophiolite |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: Re: BIRTH OF EARTH |
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| jsispat wrote: |
1. earth is living thing like plants and growing.
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The biosphere has been likened to a living entity by James Lovelock in his Gaia hypothesis. Much as I like his idea it has not been well received scienctists at large. Moreover, I think you mean the entire planet, not just the surface scum.
So, what evidence do you have for this?
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| 2. so its birth is also from seed and universe is soil where it germinated |
What is the chracteristic of the universe that provides fertile 'soil'. The seeds, after all, are resident in a vacuum. Where does the material for growth come from?
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| 3. all meteroids are seeds of planets but out of very few can germinate. |
Again, what determines the success or failure of germination?
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4. pls see ate attached snaps these are attached snaps of cutted log showing its growth of tree and same way earth is growing layerwise. white layer is crust and red is core like material of earth.
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What is your evidence for this?
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i have more logics also
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So far I have not seen any logic, so you can hardly have more.
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| jsispat |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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1. entire planet is living thing and core and crust are two parts. like if we see cutted log there is two parts white and red same as any planet.
2. when planet become mature female planets produce meteroids or seeds of that planet same trees produces their own seeds
3.as tree produces lot of its seeds in forests but very few germinate only. it depends also the location or many other things to germinate.
4. earth is living thing because it is expanding and earth quakes are strokes of expentions.it has two parts core and crust like every tree or any living thing by nature. it has all that minerals req by all living thing same as |
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| The Matt |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| So... you've still not found any evidence for this? Give it up! |
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| BumFluff |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| They've actually found a group of three meteroids in Antarctica that are from the dawn of Earth, when it was first being built. The meteroids consist of quite a lot different material than those meteoroids that are more recently formed in that they actually contain basic amino acids, the building blocks of protein. We're coming closer and closer to the realization that our planet was seeded from space. |
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BumFluff wrote: |
| They've actually found a group of three meteroids in Antarctica that are from the dawn of Earth, when it was first being built. The meteroids consist of quite a lot different material than those meteoroids that are more recently formed in that they actually contain basic amino acids, the building blocks of protein. We're coming closer and closer to the realization that our planet was seeded from space. |
He's not talking about panspermia though, he's talking about some sort of twisted Gaia hypothesis where meteorites are somehow analogous to plant embryos. |
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| Skiyk |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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The love of science is a beautiful thing so we should not put this man down.
Mr. Bansal
The Earth could not have possibly germinated. The Earth has no cellular structure. It is purely made up of molten rocks and iron. The posts were rather confusing but are you implying that the Earth is a seed? If so then that is also unfathomable as the Earth has no cellular structure.
In case you do not wish to read the whole thread I shall phase it simply.
The Earth is not alive as it has no cellular structure. It is an interesting prospect though but this idea does not work.
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| BumFluff |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy wrote: |
| BumFluff wrote: |
| They've actually found a group of three meteroids in Antarctica that are from the dawn of Earth, when it was first being built. The meteroids consist of quite a lot different material than those meteoroids that are more recently formed in that they actually contain basic amino acids, the building blocks of protein. We're coming closer and closer to the realization that our planet was seeded from space. |
He's not talking about panspermia though, he's talking about some sort of twisted Gaia hypothesis where meteorites are somehow analogous to plant embryos. |
I know. But theories are often debunked by opposing better theories with better 'proof'.
Edit: Ok I see. I don't quite understand what you are saying. Are you saying that you believe Earth is a living, breathing organism or that you think Earth is some sort of seed? |
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| Skiyk |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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That's no reason to be rude though.
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| serpicojr |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| How was BumFluff being rude? |
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| BumFluff |
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| Skiyk wrote: |
| That's no reason to be rude though. |
I wasn't being rude in any sense of the word. If you thought I was then you misunderstood. I was merely posting my thoughts on the subject and the second part of my last post was pointed towards the original poster asking exactly what it is that he meant. My understanding is that he meant that he thought that the Earth was a living breathing organism. |
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| jsispat |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: birth of earth |
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| all living thing has skin or covering or crust and inner side has core. like same earth body. |
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Re: birth of earth |
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| jsispat wrote: |
| all living thing has skin or covering or crust and inner side has core. like same earth body. |
An unfertilized egg has a crust and inner side as well, yet it's just dead matter.
Sometimes it's useful to make an analogy, like saying that the earth is an organism while you actually mean that it functions as an interdependent system. But don't confuse an analogy or metaphor with an actual description or explanation. |
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| The Matt |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Re: birth of earth |
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| jsispat wrote: |
| all living thing has skin or covering or crust and inner side has core. like same earth body. |
Well, who could argue with an account that well reasoned  |
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